Our beautiful U.S.A has fallen into the most evil, wicked and unrestrained depravity as demonstrated by the last two “Democrat” presidents and the low IQ slut Marxist puppet. They and their administrations are a mosaic of similar creatures.
While our future looks dim, let’s continue to pray for God’s forgiveness, mercy and grace. May He s…
Our beautiful U.S.A has fallen into the most evil, wicked and unrestrained depravity as demonstrated by the last two “Democrat” presidents and the low IQ slut Marxist puppet. They and their administrations are a mosaic of similar creatures.
While our future looks dim, let’s continue to pray for God’s forgiveness, mercy and grace. May He send a new awakening in the nick of time. Otherwise, we will lose our Republic.
What happened in 1860 can be likened to what’s happening now: approximately half the country wants to go “full blown Marxist”. Do you think we should allow them to have half the country if that could be arranged? Or fight them and their poisonous ideology with all we’ve got until we’ve laid them waste? Lincoln saw not just the abolition of slavery, but the wider world to which this country was a beacon of Liberty. That’s our same struggle today, the abolition of Marxism.
They aren’t focused on the underlying ideologies or principles. So they often don’t know enough to understand what they want.
They default to what’s in front of them and what their social circle thinks. This is why the media can spew BS propaganda that you can’t believe anybody would buy, but they do buy it.
The main problem is to remove permanent Washington or permanent (pick your state) political machines that control what goes on behind the scenes- like rigging elections and selecting, not electing, candidates. Even in red states, like Arizona or Texas, the political dynasties linger and cause trouble. McCain, Bush, etc. In the blue states it’s obvious too. California is basically run by a few families - the Browns, the Pelosis, the Gettys. And then behind the donors and the patronage jobs in Washington is the intelligence apparatus where you get the toxic blend of secrecy for a living and lethal capabilities. It’s been like this for a long time. It’s only recently that the public is waking up to the problem. The RINOs would rather put democrats in office than let the voters will be carried out because it threatens their crooked and lucrative access to public monies and contracts. That’s all. Nothing more. There are no principles at work here but power and access to YOUR money.
This is not going to get resolved with talking and voting. The bad guys are using force and viruses and abuse of the legal system. Honestly it will be a miracle if they let Trump back into the White House. More trouble is on the horizon because some Americans are going to fight this, and not in court.
It WILL be a miracle. God is on the side of truth, virtue, righteousness and much more. IN HIS word He says, “ If MY people will humble themselves and, seek MY face, turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from Heaven, forgive their sins and I will heal their land.
Notice that He said , My people. Believers in Jesus Christ.
Why would you support, work for and/or with a group, a system, an administration that ALL THE EVIDENCE proves beyond a shadow of doubt is creating havoc and destruction in all that it touches, no matter your political bent or lack thereof?
Greed is usually the first response, and while that, for a time may be their payoff motive, can they not see the end thereof? That the ship is sinking?
I do, and I am no genius. Why would supposedly smart people who’ve made millions and billions support the destruction of this country, but more importantly, eventually their own as well?
The people who are buying our elections and running this country do not live under the same rules that they want applied to others. The ultra-wealthy live very differently than you and I. They aren't necessarily bad people, they just don't see the same necessity in things that you do. They can buy or use their clout for favors you and I could never do so. This is the danger that we face. The middle class has been largely destroyed or reduced in scope as a viable political force. Today the term is used strictly for political purposes. We are about to start turning on ourselves if the trend does not change.
Well said. We on the right need to look at the big picture more often. Texas and Arizona are well on their way to being blue states. California was once a red state, back when it was the jewel of the country. The color changing trend is rapidly evolving and both coasts are going to be solid blue while a majority of the middle will be red or lean red. What then? The center feeds us and the coasts control the country. The dynamic has to change and soon. I agree with you on Trump. Should by the grace of God Trump be re-elected and take office, the left will NEVER stop attacking him because it's easier to do so than wage direct war on us. As the cliché goes, the left is playing hardball and we are playing softball. We cannot win like this. Just wait until this winter and they feds try to lock us down again with the next version of the Wuhan virus. It could be very ugly and the fight may not be just in the courts as you say.
Trump is the only guy running tough enough to start fixing this mess. I like DeSantis because he understands how to govern based on the will of the people. But even though DeSantis is tough and has the war fighter background, he is at a different place in his life than Trump. Both are tough guys, but Trump is the guy you want with you when the bar fight gets ugly and the rules don't matter. He is a flawed human but have you ever seen a strong leader who wasn't? There is a reason Ike kept GS Patton in command in WWII. He was a junkyard dog.
this was vividly displayed in the 04 and 06 congressional elections where the marginally less left wing party failed to support one of the last congresscritters who actually cared about constituents. she squeaked through in 04 but was voted out for a commie in 06 - a commie whose fundraising was virtually all from out of state. since then i have a limitless contempt for both major parties.
I do not believe half the country wants to go full "Marxist". I don't believe half the country could even explain what the term means to any extent. Too many see what is happening only thru the prism of how it is affecting them, not the country as a whole. There is serious education required on a mass scale here. Most people are one or two issue folks politically and never see or understand the macro. As citizens, too many bounce around like a bee-bee in a boxcar come every election cycle depending on who is "trendy" at the moment.
I doubt think the average citizen who still votes Democrat knows what the heck they’re voting for, they are just brainwashed or suffering from irreconcilable TDS, or however they justify supporting them.
But those donors and money men pushing all this crap: DEI, CRT, ESG, LGb+, along with all the lawless actions of this government, certainly know what’s happening and full-throatily support it. The MSM keeps those voters ill- and misinformed to keep the whole corrupt charade going.
It’s the power centers, the IC, the moneymen and media that have to be taken down who are fueling this whole takeover of the country.
On target. A few years ago my wife and I and another couple visited St. Petersburg in Russia. I was amazed at how matter of fact the Russian folks on the streets. The average Russian understands that America is somehow the rock that holds the world together. They may not understand why but it is the gold standard to the one's I talked to on the visit. Some of the more educated knew more about our politics and system than many Americans do. They also understand how corruption is destroying our country just as it is keeping their country from evolving to a true capitalistic economy. We must get control of our education system and return it to sanity. Our young people are ignorant and being programed against their parents and their country.
Another parallel to that era is the new Republican party was created for the 1860 election after throwing out the Whig party in the 1850's. I think we are close to throwing out the Republican party and starting something new.
Management allows? sends? blindness and grace hardens their hearts while their own fear porn backfires. Did David say they will fall into the the trap they set for others?
Thanks for that. I am not at all familiar with that appellation.
Nor why you think the civil war was the point at which the country was lost? Are you suggesting allowing slavery to remain legal would have been a better course?
"Are you suggesting allowing slavery to remain legal would have been a better course?"
I am not – but the slavery question should have been left to the states. While I'm content to leave it to scholars who are much more learned than I, we'll never know if the Union could or might have been preserved without the War of Northern Aggression, per Lincoln's own expressed preference.
As soon as the Union army advanced against Confederacy armies, the republic per the constitution ceased to exist in fact. The idea persisted, but Lincoln's decision to preserve the Union by force was every bit the equivalent of Pelosi's manually shredding President Trump's SotU address.
Consider: even without agricultural technological advancement, it is likely the practice of slavery would have been ended, anyway, for this reason:
Only the plantation owners, and perhaps some of the more wealthy gentry, owned slaves. The vast majority of the citizenry did not. If allowed to vote on the issue, is it unreasonable to conclude that the voters would have abolished it via electoral means? I think not.
In one of his books (I can't recall which one), Shelby Foote relates an exchange between a Union soldier whose army was occupying a town and a resident that was something like this:
Union soldier: Why do you hate us, so?
Resident: Because you're here.
That illustrates the mindset of most southerners at the time – they couldn't have cared less about the issue until they were forced to care. It's just like homosexuality – most of us don't care what others do in the privacy of their homes until we're forced to care. How the plantation owners ran their enterprise was none of their business until the Union army forced the issue.
Finally, 'slavery' has a negative connotation. Yes, it is an abhorrent practice, but this idea that slavery in the Antebellum South is synonymous with physical and sexual abuse, uninhabitable living conditions, et al. is the exception, not the rule, and it is largely a product of the narrative Hollywood wants told. Even Alex Haley's work has been revealed to be an elaborate fiction.
In Shelby Foote’s Civil War Trilogy he also expounds upon Lincoln, one of his most admired heroes, as much for his gift for writing as anything else:
“Lincoln was in his wartime speeches ever more direct in asserting that the South must be defeated not only or even primarily to efface what he came to regard as the stain of slavery, but to demonstrate to a global audience and for the benefit for all posterity that, as Foote put it ‘world democracy, which was shown to depend on survival of the Union with the South as part of the whole,’ could triumph over its enemies. In this respect it is Lincoln, even more than Wilson or FDR, who set forth in speech and confirmed in feats of arms the doctrine that the United States was the vector by which the world would become what America is—the prophet of our empire.”
In other words, to Lincoln the war was about so much more than just the abolition of slavery, but the preservation of the American experiment as determined by the Founders.
The God-given, inalienable right of all men to life, Liberty and the the pursuit of happiness, which every slave, regardless of the conditions he lived in, all provided by a “master”, was being wholly deprived of.
*(for interesting article on Shelby Foote, where I copied those quotes, you might like:
Not From Texas is not wrong. Our country would look much different had Douglas won the Presidency.
But we cannot know what would have happened had different decisions been made. We can know only what did happen and move on.
To keep alive the controversies and conflict of 1860 is nothing more than intellectual speculation now as almost two centuries separate us from that dispute.
Yes. That is certainly true that it is just an intellectual exercise at this point. Sort of like Philip K Dick’s groundbreaking alternative history book Man in the High Castle (or Tower. I always forget) that had the Nazis and Imperial Japan winning WWII.
Yes! Exactly like that. And for further reading of alternate history, you may want to research those historical authors who assert that it would have been better for Europe and the world had Germany won WWI. To be clear--World War One. I don’t have a book to suggest, however. Another intellectual exercise.
Agreed Rob, but he didn't make this mess, we allowed it to happen and we need to fix it with his guidance and support. If we don't all pull together and resist being surgically divided by the left, this great experiment was for nothing. I believe we can do it but it is going to be painful for the country.
Our beautiful U.S.A has fallen into the most evil, wicked and unrestrained depravity as demonstrated by the last two “Democrat” presidents and the low IQ slut Marxist puppet. They and their administrations are a mosaic of similar creatures.
While our future looks dim, let’s continue to pray for God’s forgiveness, mercy and grace. May He send a new awakening in the nick of time. Otherwise, we will lose our Republic.
Excellent points all around, but the republic was lost when The Wrestler declared war on half of the country.
What happened in 1860 can be likened to what’s happening now: approximately half the country wants to go “full blown Marxist”. Do you think we should allow them to have half the country if that could be arranged? Or fight them and their poisonous ideology with all we’ve got until we’ve laid them waste? Lincoln saw not just the abolition of slavery, but the wider world to which this country was a beacon of Liberty. That’s our same struggle today, the abolition of Marxism.
Most people aren’t Marxists or die hard MAGA.
They aren’t focused on the underlying ideologies or principles. So they often don’t know enough to understand what they want.
They default to what’s in front of them and what their social circle thinks. This is why the media can spew BS propaganda that you can’t believe anybody would buy, but they do buy it.
The main problem is to remove permanent Washington or permanent (pick your state) political machines that control what goes on behind the scenes- like rigging elections and selecting, not electing, candidates. Even in red states, like Arizona or Texas, the political dynasties linger and cause trouble. McCain, Bush, etc. In the blue states it’s obvious too. California is basically run by a few families - the Browns, the Pelosis, the Gettys. And then behind the donors and the patronage jobs in Washington is the intelligence apparatus where you get the toxic blend of secrecy for a living and lethal capabilities. It’s been like this for a long time. It’s only recently that the public is waking up to the problem. The RINOs would rather put democrats in office than let the voters will be carried out because it threatens their crooked and lucrative access to public monies and contracts. That’s all. Nothing more. There are no principles at work here but power and access to YOUR money.
This is not going to get resolved with talking and voting. The bad guys are using force and viruses and abuse of the legal system. Honestly it will be a miracle if they let Trump back into the White House. More trouble is on the horizon because some Americans are going to fight this, and not in court.
It WILL be a miracle. God is on the side of truth, virtue, righteousness and much more. IN HIS word He says, “ If MY people will humble themselves and, seek MY face, turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from Heaven, forgive their sins and I will heal their land.
Notice that He said , My people. Believers in Jesus Christ.
Let’s pray that you are right, Rob.
Yes Tanto! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
If my people who are called by mine name, will humble …
Sorry. Forgot to include that important phrase.
As I read your words, my brain filled in the phrase automatically!
The human mind is a marvel.
Yes it is All His creation is a marvel.
All Of what you’ve said: TRUE.
But again it all begs the question:
WHY?
Why would you support, work for and/or with a group, a system, an administration that ALL THE EVIDENCE proves beyond a shadow of doubt is creating havoc and destruction in all that it touches, no matter your political bent or lack thereof?
Greed is usually the first response, and while that, for a time may be their payoff motive, can they not see the end thereof? That the ship is sinking?
I do, and I am no genius. Why would supposedly smart people who’ve made millions and billions support the destruction of this country, but more importantly, eventually their own as well?
The people who are buying our elections and running this country do not live under the same rules that they want applied to others. The ultra-wealthy live very differently than you and I. They aren't necessarily bad people, they just don't see the same necessity in things that you do. They can buy or use their clout for favors you and I could never do so. This is the danger that we face. The middle class has been largely destroyed or reduced in scope as a viable political force. Today the term is used strictly for political purposes. We are about to start turning on ourselves if the trend does not change.
Astute assessment of politics today.Power creates riches which leads to more power,hence corruption unabated.
Well said Tanto.
Well said. We on the right need to look at the big picture more often. Texas and Arizona are well on their way to being blue states. California was once a red state, back when it was the jewel of the country. The color changing trend is rapidly evolving and both coasts are going to be solid blue while a majority of the middle will be red or lean red. What then? The center feeds us and the coasts control the country. The dynamic has to change and soon. I agree with you on Trump. Should by the grace of God Trump be re-elected and take office, the left will NEVER stop attacking him because it's easier to do so than wage direct war on us. As the cliché goes, the left is playing hardball and we are playing softball. We cannot win like this. Just wait until this winter and they feds try to lock us down again with the next version of the Wuhan virus. It could be very ugly and the fight may not be just in the courts as you say.
You can’t fight a junkyard dog with a toy poodle.
Trump is the only guy running tough enough to start fixing this mess. I like DeSantis because he understands how to govern based on the will of the people. But even though DeSantis is tough and has the war fighter background, he is at a different place in his life than Trump. Both are tough guys, but Trump is the guy you want with you when the bar fight gets ugly and the rules don't matter. He is a flawed human but have you ever seen a strong leader who wasn't? There is a reason Ike kept GS Patton in command in WWII. He was a junkyard dog.
I agree with your first sentence. I would call that group the infamous independents.
this was vividly displayed in the 04 and 06 congressional elections where the marginally less left wing party failed to support one of the last congresscritters who actually cared about constituents. she squeaked through in 04 but was voted out for a commie in 06 - a commie whose fundraising was virtually all from out of state. since then i have a limitless contempt for both major parties.
I do not believe half the country wants to go full "Marxist". I don't believe half the country could even explain what the term means to any extent. Too many see what is happening only thru the prism of how it is affecting them, not the country as a whole. There is serious education required on a mass scale here. Most people are one or two issue folks politically and never see or understand the macro. As citizens, too many bounce around like a bee-bee in a boxcar come every election cycle depending on who is "trendy" at the moment.
I doubt think the average citizen who still votes Democrat knows what the heck they’re voting for, they are just brainwashed or suffering from irreconcilable TDS, or however they justify supporting them.
But those donors and money men pushing all this crap: DEI, CRT, ESG, LGb+, along with all the lawless actions of this government, certainly know what’s happening and full-throatily support it. The MSM keeps those voters ill- and misinformed to keep the whole corrupt charade going.
It’s the power centers, the IC, the moneymen and media that have to be taken down who are fueling this whole takeover of the country.
On target. A few years ago my wife and I and another couple visited St. Petersburg in Russia. I was amazed at how matter of fact the Russian folks on the streets. The average Russian understands that America is somehow the rock that holds the world together. They may not understand why but it is the gold standard to the one's I talked to on the visit. Some of the more educated knew more about our politics and system than many Americans do. They also understand how corruption is destroying our country just as it is keeping their country from evolving to a true capitalistic economy. We must get control of our education system and return it to sanity. Our young people are ignorant and being programed against their parents and their country.
Another parallel to that era is the new Republican party was created for the 1860 election after throwing out the Whig party in the 1850's. I think we are close to throwing out the Republican party and starting something new.
Management allows? sends? blindness and grace hardens their hearts while their own fear porn backfires. Did David say they will fall into the the trap they set for others?
Who's The Wrestler?
Yeah, that is my question too!
The only one I know is Jesse Ventura who was gov of MN! 🤣
The Wrestler, is President Lincoln.
Thanks for that. I am not at all familiar with that appellation.
Nor why you think the civil war was the point at which the country was lost? Are you suggesting allowing slavery to remain legal would have been a better course?
"Are you suggesting allowing slavery to remain legal would have been a better course?"
I am not – but the slavery question should have been left to the states. While I'm content to leave it to scholars who are much more learned than I, we'll never know if the Union could or might have been preserved without the War of Northern Aggression, per Lincoln's own expressed preference.
As soon as the Union army advanced against Confederacy armies, the republic per the constitution ceased to exist in fact. The idea persisted, but Lincoln's decision to preserve the Union by force was every bit the equivalent of Pelosi's manually shredding President Trump's SotU address.
Consider: even without agricultural technological advancement, it is likely the practice of slavery would have been ended, anyway, for this reason:
Only the plantation owners, and perhaps some of the more wealthy gentry, owned slaves. The vast majority of the citizenry did not. If allowed to vote on the issue, is it unreasonable to conclude that the voters would have abolished it via electoral means? I think not.
In one of his books (I can't recall which one), Shelby Foote relates an exchange between a Union soldier whose army was occupying a town and a resident that was something like this:
Union soldier: Why do you hate us, so?
Resident: Because you're here.
That illustrates the mindset of most southerners at the time – they couldn't have cared less about the issue until they were forced to care. It's just like homosexuality – most of us don't care what others do in the privacy of their homes until we're forced to care. How the plantation owners ran their enterprise was none of their business until the Union army forced the issue.
Finally, 'slavery' has a negative connotation. Yes, it is an abhorrent practice, but this idea that slavery in the Antebellum South is synonymous with physical and sexual abuse, uninhabitable living conditions, et al. is the exception, not the rule, and it is largely a product of the narrative Hollywood wants told. Even Alex Haley's work has been revealed to be an elaborate fiction.
In Shelby Foote’s Civil War Trilogy he also expounds upon Lincoln, one of his most admired heroes, as much for his gift for writing as anything else:
“Lincoln was in his wartime speeches ever more direct in asserting that the South must be defeated not only or even primarily to efface what he came to regard as the stain of slavery, but to demonstrate to a global audience and for the benefit for all posterity that, as Foote put it ‘world democracy, which was shown to depend on survival of the Union with the South as part of the whole,’ could triumph over its enemies. In this respect it is Lincoln, even more than Wilson or FDR, who set forth in speech and confirmed in feats of arms the doctrine that the United States was the vector by which the world would become what America is—the prophet of our empire.”
In other words, to Lincoln the war was about so much more than just the abolition of slavery, but the preservation of the American experiment as determined by the Founders.
The God-given, inalienable right of all men to life, Liberty and the the pursuit of happiness, which every slave, regardless of the conditions he lived in, all provided by a “master”, was being wholly deprived of.
*(for interesting article on Shelby Foote, where I copied those quotes, you might like:
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/shelby-foote-proust)
Interesting thoughts. I have not heard some of these perspectives before. Thanks for laying it out.
Not From Texas is not wrong. Our country would look much different had Douglas won the Presidency.
But we cannot know what would have happened had different decisions been made. We can know only what did happen and move on.
To keep alive the controversies and conflict of 1860 is nothing more than intellectual speculation now as almost two centuries separate us from that dispute.
Yes. That is certainly true that it is just an intellectual exercise at this point. Sort of like Philip K Dick’s groundbreaking alternative history book Man in the High Castle (or Tower. I always forget) that had the Nazis and Imperial Japan winning WWII.
Yes! Exactly like that. And for further reading of alternate history, you may want to research those historical authors who assert that it would have been better for Europe and the world had Germany won WWI. To be clear--World War One. I don’t have a book to suggest, however. Another intellectual exercise.
Happy to share!
Agreed Rob, but he didn't make this mess, we allowed it to happen and we need to fix it with his guidance and support. If we don't all pull together and resist being surgically divided by the left, this great experiment was for nothing. I believe we can do it but it is going to be painful for the country.