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Charles Bolen's avatar

They figured out if they spit out one or two true stories a month, they can trick some former readers that they have changed. Just as some people are flocking to Maher while he is still the same asshole he’s always been. The “based truth bombs” he drops about once a week are irreconcilable with the conclusion he has that Orange Man bad. It’s a cynical ratings play.

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Don Surber's avatar

Amen

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Adorable Deplorable's avatar

Correct. Sure, Maher throws the bone once in a while but make no mistake, it is only for publicity and ratings. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck.

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Reddog's avatar

Maher has figured out that if he keeps spouting left wing lunacy right leaning folks are tuning him out so being a good businessman he decided to allow what is left of his commonsense to say the truth, the left has gone way too far left and are now part of the problem. But as you say, he’s still a raving liberal. He can’t help it, liberalism eventually eats a persons brain cells. No going back from it.

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Lawsy0's avatar

True, unless it is the poisonous cousin, the duck-billed platypus.

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Don Reed's avatar

05/10/24: Agreed. I suspect that Taibbi --- usually sober --- has been drinking out of the Nostalgia Jug. Remember, when he was a college student 30 years ago, up at Bard College, the NYT still had some credibility left. All shredded now.

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Don Reed's avatar

Bard College is sucking at the Palestinian tit (see Wikipedia profile). The Suicide Tide is irresistible to these seriously deranged people.

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Indydoc's avatar

REminds me of CNN trying to re invent itself right before it goes bankrupt.

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MLR's avatar

The NYT and the rest of the Pravdaesque press deserve the Walter Duranty award for fake news reporting.

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Kevin Menard's avatar

I can't remember the last time that journalists in general were either objective or even pro-American. We lost Vietnam due to a lost of will, driven by the selective reporting of the media. North Vietnam mass murders and Vietcong torture killing were ignored. Stories were sloped to be losses when they were not. So the politicians gave it away and betrayed an ally. Kinda like Biden and the Ds are doing to Israel today.

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Reddog's avatar

More and more, I see our media as do biased there is no difference between them and the USSR’s Pravda. Some of the outlets are worse like CNN who is remaking itself in the image of Bagdad Bob. Journalism must be allowed to die, and stay buried. Something will take its place that is better.

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Marlan Hoerer's avatar

That odorous emanation in the air is long dead but un-entombed journalism.This explains folks wearing masks in only blue areas.

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TeaPartyGal's avatar

Haha!

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Wim de Vriend's avatar

I agree, but was Vietnam really worth it? All those soldiers dead, and the survivors with lifelong health problems? Today American companies are doing a thriving business with Vietnam, and the Communist bugaboo seems to have gone to sleep. Besides, there was never a chance of China taking over Vietnam; the Vietnamese hate them and beat them. And wasn't that one of the reasons for that war?

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Indydoc's avatar

What about all the folks the commies murdered after we left?

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Kevin Menard's avatar

Not going argue. Was just pointing out journalists have been Commie whores since 1917. Our host and a few others excluded.

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Ben Phillips's avatar

Difficult Truths. What is so difficult about the truth?

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Adorable Deplorable's avatar

Well... didn't an NPR bimbo recently say something about how "...there are many different truths." LOL. This is what we are up against and this is where our hard earned money goes.

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Subvet's avatar

That's like saying there are many different genders.

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RevMikeyMac's avatar

Same playbook. Same result. Chaos and decay.

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Don Reed's avatar

05/10/24: The country has been thrown into the Gender Blender.

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MT's avatar

As does Terrorism; which we are now witnessing in the Good Ole USA, today.

OMG, how we have fallen. Sad.

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Reddog's avatar

Everything to a Marxist. To them, the truth only refers to how you see a fact, because others may see the fact differently. In reality, the truth is bad for Marxist and liberals because they are not in the truth or reality business, they are in the business of making the world the way they want it to be, and reality and truth have nothing to do with it. If you are remaking peoples reality, like now when the WH tells us the economy is better and the business world is booming even though most of us can see the truth every time we shop for food or gas or buy anything. To liberals, the truth is what you tell people it is, not what they see.

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tj's avatar

Or its based in their feelzings. Sorry feelzings are not facts and never will be.

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Wim de Vriend's avatar

You hit upon the Truth.

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OldeArtiste's avatar

As David Foster Wallace once said, “The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you.” That's what's difficult about the truth and why so many fear it - like learning things like "Communism sucks bigly".

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Suzie's avatar

!! Awesome.

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Playswithneedles's avatar

I voted for hemorrhoids because they can be cured.

To this native Florida girl, a mullet is a delicious bottom feeding fish served up best fried in cornmeal with cole slaw and hush puppies from an enameled wash basin on a wooden picnic table at the local fish camp.

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Epstein Did Not Kill Himself's avatar

Hemorrhoids can be cured but they are such a pain in the ass!

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Lawsy0's avatar

I should say, "May I quote you?" But I'm gonna do it before noon today! Hemorrhoids AND fried fish and hush puppies.

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Don Reed's avatar

"Check, please." (!)

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Reddog's avatar

👍

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William Coulter's avatar

TDS has a cost and “journalism” is finding that out.

Our local paper, Florida Today, is an embarrassment. It is so thin it doesn’t make for a good bird cage liner, although it does make for a decent fly swatter.

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Reddog's avatar

Ah, an optimistist. I like that, always find some good in everything😎

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Don Reed's avatar

Speaking of TDS, Erin Burnett (recently attempting to be a journalist for the first time in decades) on Election Night 11/05/24 will be absolutely so far out to sea [edit, replacing "see"], the Titanic's captain will see her as an approaching iceberg.

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imkitty's avatar

One of these things is not like the others

One of these things doesn't belong...

I say it's MULLETS!

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Lawsy0's avatar

Speaking of mullets! I rather liked them. I'd watch Electric Company on PBS with my coffee the year boy-kid had to go to mandatory kindergarten in "Norf" Carolina. Cry and sip, sip and cry. Public school is where kids learned to bury their imagination. Thankfully, his resurfaced as soon as he got out of high school. He'd pin up his mullet under his shorter hair so as not to offend his older friends at church. The Mullet didn't quite go-with the suit & tie he preferred for Sunday-go-to-meeting. I learned to live with his torn-jeans phase, too. And the one ear piercing, as well. He's now 50+ with two teens. WGACA

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RevMikeyMac's avatar

Hopefully his kids don't have purple hair and tats...

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CosmicPatriot's avatar

Nobody ever compelled me to get a mullet, so I voted for that. Throughout this mess, leftists regularly toss us a few breadcrumbs so they can maintain their illusion of still being unbiased. Look at Bill Maher now. Inside he's a seething America hater, but he tosses us some crumbs to try to make us feel like he's not seeking to bend us over. No thanks, I know who these people are. As the Jews are fond of saying, "never again".

The toothpaste off the floor analogy is brilliant today, Don. Kudos!

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Don Surber's avatar

Thanks

I laughed too!

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Don Reed's avatar

I had a mullet once. The problem was solved by decapitation.

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CosmicPatriot's avatar

And yet here you are, one of the lucky few to survive that!

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Don Reed's avatar

Yes, but you'd be surprised how hard it is to breathe through one's ass.

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David Thompson's avatar

The problem with journalism is the same as every occupation that selects for people with no faith in God: when you refuse to love the truth (that God exists and you should want what He wants and do what He says) God will eventually reward you with a mind that skitters off into depravity. It is easy to see in journalism because the rich people who bought all the mainstream media fired all the Christians. But there are a lot of occupations like this. I would be happy to have journalism back if journalists put God back in charge of their lives.

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Suzie's avatar

If I may quibble with one of your points: that God will “reward those who reject Him with a depraved mind”.

A depraved mind is a direct consequence of continually rejecting God, like getting burned each time you put your hand in a fire. God definitively warns us of the consequences, but He does not inflict them upon us. We do that to ourselves automatically when we reject Him.

One will always be rewarded for faith, but fools will also always suffer the inevitable and immutable consequences of their rejection of Him.

“But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”

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David Thompson's avatar

I based my comment on:

Romans 1:28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

2 Thess. 2:10b-12 ... because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

To be fair, I see your point that rejecting God's gift of faith is a depraved act to begin with, but I think it is untrue to say God never does evil. The difference is that He only does evil in order to bring about what is good (because He has the knowledge and power to do so... we do not). Look at Genesis 3:22, Deut. 28:63, Job 2:10, Amos 9:4, Ezek. 20:21-26, Isaiah 45:7, Genesis 50:20.

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Suzie's avatar

Evil is solely the perversion of good, the opposite of, and acting strictly in opposition to good. It otherwise could not exist.

God does not act against Himself, though He permits it (free will) for the purposes of correction, the language of the prophets notwithstanding.

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donald b welch's avatar

msm died for me the very first debate on 8/7/2015 between the donald and the other gop pothunters when foxnews' megan kelly, bret baier and chris wallace tried to take out then candidate trump. it hit me like a ton of bricks. i was a card carrying foxnews baby from the very first day back in 1996 when they went live. my cable happened to offer them and i was hooked.

finally a fair and balanced approach to the issues that shaped our lives. but here i was, watching them (with fire blasting from their collective eyeballs) attempting to take out donald j.trump. if they were in on the con...so were all the rest. fired them then and there and never looked back. now i pick and choose where i get my information (and whom i trust). but that's just me.

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Indydoc's avatar

Same as the WSJ. I still like it for the finance issues and some of the editorials.

They just continually blast Trump, then cry like a baby when Biden does something stupid.

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Jim Murray's avatar

Consider: A degree from the Columbia School of Journalism, founded by Joseph Pulitzer, is the highest qualification a newly hired "reporter" can possess. The Columbia University we are currently watching implode with anti-Israel hate established and guides modern journalism's standards. Its more correctly described indoctrination school graduates then move on to finishing schools we laughingly call "news outlets." Fact: It is a fool's game for the public to expect today's journalists to be without hard left wing bias. *** Lucille Ball is credited with saying "I Love Lucy" was a success because it was directed at the lowest common denominator. Today's news outlets do the same. There is no other explanation for the success of such shows as The View, hosts such as Stephanopoulos and Kimmel. Lucille Ball would recognize today's news outlets as third rate burlesque shows.

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tj's avatar

I think The View is such a train wreck that you cant look away. I cant handle the screeching voices at all. Dont even watch the clips elsewhere.

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Don Reed's avatar

Not even the cannibals can look at Whoopie Goldberg with relish (or ketchup).

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tj's avatar

oh my, I am sooo glad my coffee was on the desk.

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Marlan Hoerer's avatar

Whammo!!

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N.S. Palmer's avatar

A curious and reasonably intelligent person can learn all the basic skills of journalism in a week. The rest comes with practice and experience. I've always considered journalism school to be a waste of time, and I think that the last 20 years have proven me right.

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Reddog's avatar

We need to let journalism die. Their choice, not ours. When you see virtually every news network and newspaper loosing money year after year yet they keep the doors open and stay on the sir, you have to ask yourself “how that can be”? What or who is keeping the businesses propped up and operating……..and why? The answer to that is where you will find the source of much of our division and misinformation.

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Wim de Vriend's avatar

Take Jeff Bezos' Washington Post as an example. What it shows is that very rich people with "progressive" fetishes or leftist girl friends like to pick up existing "news" organizations because that saves them the labor- and money-intensive bother of creating them; and they can nurture illusions of running the world through these outfits, at bargain prices.

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Reddog's avatar

True. In Bezos case, he needed a firewall to his business interests to keep dissent contained and to have an advocate when needed. He bought a recognized media gold standard (at least for liberals) and its working for him. Wealthy people need something between them and their business operations and the WaPo is for him.

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TeaPartyGal's avatar

This is completely off topic, though donald b welch's reference to the "cool North Face tents" at the Hamas encampments sparked it. Definitely some shady organization with money bought all that equipment for those staged Hamas protests.

As a camper, everytime I see one of those pictures of trucks and bulldozers clearing away the Hamas encampments, I cringe at all those nice tents being destroyed. If there was a university near me with a Hamas encampment, I would be over there asking the bulldozer drivers if I could salvage some of that camping equipment. I bet there is tons of good stuff there--besides the tents, probably ground pads or sleeping pads (which are expensive), insulated coolers, thermal cups, lanterns, etc. But the tents alone from one encampment could outfit several Boy Scout troops. What a waste.

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Suzie's avatar

“What a waste”….to include the now mush-minds of the students.

Tragic.

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TeaPartyGal's avatar

Yep, I'm well aware that the Scouts have been infiltrated by woke-ism. Actually, about 15 years ago, the Boy Scouts selected West Virginia as the permanent site for their every-4-years National Jamborees. They've built a gorgeous new complex adjacent to the New River Gorge (now a National Park is there too).

I worked at the 2013 and 2017 Jamborees in the Faith and Beliefs area. I have to say, it was SUPERB to see so many high quality young men, who mostly came from stable family backgrounds with good values and some degree of spiritual foundation. So, so many of them were sincere spiritual seekers, seriously looking to learn about religions.

Yes, the Scouts have been under attack--first forced to include gay leaders, then attacked for cases of sexual abuse of scouts, and sued to near bankruptcy. It is part of the Left's attack on everything wholesome.

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Wim de Vriend's avatar

I started reading the Bennet article, but about one-third through abandoned it. Just a flood of words, bringing very little I didn't know. And what's with the British spelling? Is that a behavior learned at the Times, to come across as extra snooty?

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Don Reed's avatar

05/10/24: Possibly trace amounts of their ex-CEO, Thompson, who escaped the BBC Jimmy Savile pedophile crisis [https://www.netflix.com/title/81520549] by the skin of his teeth when he was able to deport himself to NYC and the Times. He's now currently trying to do the same thing at CNN, but the indications are that the place will implode.

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Steve  C's avatar

I have called the NYT the Pravda on the Hudson for decades. Anytime they published something I knew about from independent sources I knew they got it wrong. The problem for most people is that they read something on the next page that is new to them and they believe it. This after realizing that on the page before the story was reported incorrectly. I recently asked an acquaintance if he also had that experience. As a liberal he said he read a variety of newspapers and so could get various viewpoints. After he told me what he read I realized he read a variety of publications with the same views. He read the NYT the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Washington Post. I then understood why he was a liberal who voted for leftists.

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TeaPartyGal's avatar

Yes, because the entire range of large, legacy media were infiltrated and corrupted--but not put out of business--most liberals really do think they are getting a "varied" point of view if they look at more than one legacy outlet.

I know some who read a variety of Leftists papers, but also do read the Wall St. Journal--and think that therefore they have gotten the "Right's" point of view. And they really like Peggy Noonan.

I try to steer them to aggregators CFP and RealClear Politics, but that requires a more significant investment in thinking through contradictory views, and more time than they are willing to invest.

If this was "planned" by the Marxists--to have the legacy media outlets all still exist but just spout the same party line--it was diabolically clever.

But what they didn't count on was over 100 new news outlets springing up on the Right. So they countered with "smear"-- the "it's just misinformation and conspiracy theory" line.

But any group (e.g. the Marxist Left) is on very thin ice, when maintaining their adherents requires trying to keep millions of people from seeing millions of pieces of information being put out by the Right.

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donald b welch's avatar

Hysterics for Hamas

Why have young women been so prominent in the recent campus chaos?

The female voices rose high-pitched and shrill above the crowd:

“Five, six, seven, eight, Israel is a terrorist state.”

“We don’t want no Zionists here, say it loud, say it clear.”

“Resistance is justified when people are occupied.”

The voices that answered them were also overwhelmingly female, emanating from hundreds of students chanting and marching around tents pitched in front of Columbia University’s neoclassical Butler Library, part of an effort in late April to prevent the university from uprooting the encampment.

The female tilt among anti-Israel student protesters is an underappreciated aspect of the pro-Hamas campus hysteria. True, when activists need muscle (to echo University of Missouri professor Melissa Click’s immortal call during the 2015 Black Lives Matter protests), males are mobilized to smash windows and doors or hurl projectiles at the police, for example. But the faces behind the masks and before the cameras are disproportionately female, as seen in this recent gem from the Princeton demonstrations.

Why the apparent gender gap? One possible reason is that women constitute majorities of both student bodies and the metastasizing student-services bureaucracies that cater to them. Another is the sex skew in majors. The hard sciences and economics, whose students are less likely to take days or weeks out from their classes to party (correction: “stand against genocide”) in cool North Face tents, are still majority male. The humanities and soft social sciences, the fields where you might even get extra credit for your intersectional activism, are majority female. (Not surprisingly, males have spearheaded recent efforts to guard the American flag against desecration.) In progressive movements, the default assumption now may be to elevate females ahead of males as leaders and spokesmen. But most important, the victim ideology that drives much of academia today, with its explicit enmity to objectivity and reason as white male constructs, has a female character.

Student protests have always been hilariously self-dramatizing, but the current outbreak is particularly maudlin, in keeping with female self-pity. “The university would rather see us dead than divest,” said a member of the all-female press representatives of UCLA’s solidarity encampment on X. The university police and the Los Angeles Police Department “would rather watch us be killed than protect us.” …

It was not too long ago when administrators started bringing in therapy dogs to campus libraries and dining halls to help a female-heavy student body cope with psychic distress, especially after the election of Donald Trump. “Trigger warnings” were implemented to protect female students from Ovid’s Metamorphoses and other great works of literature. Campus discourse and its media echo chamber rang with accounts of the mental-health crisis on campus, whose alleged sufferers were overwhelmingly female.

It was not too long ago when a predominantly female professoriate, student population, and bureaucratic apparatus embraced the idea that students’ “safety” should be protected against the “hate speech” that allegedly jeopardized it. (Males, by contrast, place greater emphasis on academic freedom and truth-seeking, regardless of the alleged emotional consequences of intellectual inquiry.) Examples of dangerous speech included arguments that racial disparities are not caused by racism and that human beings cannot change their sex by proclamation.

Read the whole thing here.

Video: Princeton anti-Israel protestors are mercilessly mocked after claiming they are STARVING amid self-imposed hunger strike: 'I'm literally shaking'

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Suzie's avatar

Women were duped into “throwing off the shackles of domestic tranquility”, for the lure and promise of the liberation of a career!

Then, they found that to be unsatisfying too, and far more competitive than they’d ever imagined, so they sought to eliminate half the competition (being men) in order to achieve the greatness they were promised and aspired to, only to discover they were now not only still miserable, but now all alone as well.

“Aha!” They proclaimed.

“What I need is A CAUSE!” (in lieu of children, you see).

So, there you have it.

A billion motherless “mothers” shrieking at you to eat your spinach.

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donald b welch's avatar

"A billion motherless “mothers” shrieking at you to eat your spinach."

...and that number is rising as marriage takes a nose dive into woke.

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tj's avatar

You did a better job of explaining my thoughts than I did. Basically they are looking for that fabled 'happiness' out side themselves. and it wont happen. It has taken me years to distill that thought. Happiness is not a state, it is a moment in time. If you dont know joy or sadness, you have nothing to compare to know happiness.

I am very very blessed as my hubby is a partner. He has strengths where I dont, and vice versa. But he brings me joy which is a derivative of happiness. I quit looking for 'happiness'. It happens or it doesnt. But I laugh when I can, be kind when I can, and try to live up to God's Grace.

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Marlan Hoerer's avatar

I like your assessment of todays AWFL Karens.

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tj's avatar

I am not sure what they think they are doing. It is beyond reason. Hamas is bad, so are all terrorists. This is like when all those middle/upper class girls/women ran off to be ISIS brides. Makes absolutely no sense at all.

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donald b welch's avatar

makes sense only if one cares to dig into the weeds. not a comfortable process for the sensitive types.

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tj's avatar

I will agree to disagree. If those idiots are following their instincts and trying to find 'real' men, terrorists are not it. Our society has done such a disservice to men it is unreal, then the feminists complain that the men are gone.

I used to think that the feminists were ok. They were for women choosing to be stay at home wives, or to have a job or both if you could manage it. That was ok in my mind. But then they went nuts, kicking out anyone that didnt have their views. including the stay at home moms, and all. Then they decided all men were bad. No, they arent. They are people just like everyone else.

Men were vilified just for being men and now society has taken in further and now women are being vilified for being women who dont want men in their space.

But we are applying (at least I am) logic to the illogical. Or did I totally miss your point?

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donald b welch's avatar

i think i pretty much agree with you. my point was to not set the bar too high for feminists. they aren't necessarily out to make the world better.....just the part they control. some men are starting the process of figuring that out and if history teaches us correctly...at some point men may (will?) simply stop sharing what they produce, create, build, engineer and invent. not all of course but a large portion could and that would change the dynamics of the human genome.

respects.

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tj's avatar

you are correct. I dont set the bar above ground level. I actually am surprised what you are talking about hasnt already occurred. Men do better in STEM because of the way their brain works. I actually work better with men and get along better with them due to my brain working more in line with a man's than a womens. I am not being sexist but women usually do better in the softer sciences, not hard core. There are exceptions both ways. My Dad used to laugh because he said I got the STEM brain and an out going personality. normally geeks are serious introverts.

And yes, there have already been changes to the way men/women interact and they are for the worst. Not quite as far as you are indicating but marriage rates and divorce rates among them. what used to be a partnership is now so out of wack not many are willing to take the plunge esp if they can get the cow for free to coin a very old phrase.

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donald b welch's avatar

to advance that thought...now they're actually pushing the idea that young girls can get the morning after pill WITHOUT permission or even knowledge of a parent. talk about the blind leading the blind.

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Shrugged's avatar

In marketing research, the male (all races) is the only demographic that advertisers are allowed to disparage without fear of adverse consumer reaction. If in doubt, look at the last 30 years of Super Bowl Ads. It’s gotten better in the last five years but there was a good 25-year run of making fun of men. Some of the ads were physically violent and aggressive toward them.

Ironically, research showed that men rated those ads as funnier than women rated them. Men just shrug it off and go have a beer.

One reason agencies may have backed off of the disparaging male humor is because they can’t figure out what a male is in 2024.

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Wim de Vriend's avatar

The same things occurred to me, when seeing the videos and photos. If this is the kind of thing that makes females feel fulfilled, we should worry about the country's survival.

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donald b welch's avatar

thomas sowell, heather mcdonald, ann coulter, harriet hageman, jon voight, robert davi, jesse lee peterson, james woods, donald j. trump and me.

there's ten. give me ten more.

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Wim de Vriend's avatar

Well, for starters there's me, of course. The boys at Echo Times do pretty well too.

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donald b welch's avatar

heather mcdonald as presented by ann coulter, two of the smartest bipeds around. i was unable to insert the credits in my original post, for some as yet unknown reason. i am old and a work in progress. nontheless, these are prescient words.

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Shrugged's avatar

The guys were still setting up all the tents and toting the heavy boxes of “supplies”.

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donald b welch's avatar

simps are everywhere....always looking for a pat on the head.

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