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MLR's avatar

SA joining the Abraham Accords is worth the risk of SA going rogue. The Saudis could buy a nuclear weapon from the crazy Pakistanis whenever they want and no one and nothing could stop that anyway. Better to have the richest Arab state be friends with the most technologically advanced nation in the region. Everybody wins.

Shrugged's avatar
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Keep your friends close and your (possible) enemies closer.

It was only 25 years ago these countries attacked us: “The 19 hijackers who carried out the September 11 attacks came from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, and Lebanon. (FBI.gov)”

Jeremy R's avatar

Anyone who bows toward Mecca shouldn't be trusted. That includes people here who convert to the death cult.

EODMom's avatar

Would that they provide an example of somehow someway sometime leading to “reform” Islam - something akin to a secular ideology that doesn't wish and seek death to any and all unbelievers. Nor stones its misbehavers nor forces women to walk in fear clothed in sacks nor encourages its unattached males to rape whoever they want whenever they want but does encourage individual productivity and responsibility. Something gotta change.

Retirednottired's avatar

It seems unlikely that Islam could be reformed in any way which would remove all the barbaric and controlling features, and remain in any way "Islam." Better to burn the entire thing to the ground and salt the ground.

Jeremy R's avatar

Sand doesn't burn well, but apply enough heat and you have glass.

Retirednottired's avatar

Hmmm, wonder where you could find enough heat....

Jeremy R's avatar

Christianity needed a Reformation because the church was selling indulgences whereas the Bible makes clear, we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus. His blood paid it all, the debt is cancelled.

Islam on the other hand is still the same bag of lies that was proclaimed by a criminal child molester illiterate. They don't need reformation, they need irradiation.

EODMom's avatar

I can’t argue. I fear it is the truth - they really can’t walk away from the Islam of Islam. 😔

Jeremy R's avatar

Those who try die.

Retirednottired's avatar

Agreed. BUT, trust but verify.

Jake's avatar

I believe Patton once said "Never take counsel in your fears". Nuclear energy is on an upswing trajectory. In the near future the Dems will take credit for the new clean energy and say it was their idea all along.

Reddog's avatar

Read the Patton Papers. Great read. They still teach his principles for war today. He was way ahead of his time.

Jeremy R's avatar

The donks take credit for everything except slavery, Jim Crow and the KKK.

Richard Luthmann's avatar

Nuclear power is not the scandal. Hypocrisy is. The UAE already runs reactors. America should be building more, not less. Saudi Arabia wants electricity, export flexibility, and modern industrial capacity. Fine — but the price should be real: recognition of Israel, binding safeguards, no enrichment loopholes, American oversight, and consequences for cheating. Trump understands that peace is not created by faculty-lounge sermons. It is created by incentives, deterrence, and fear of consequences. Obama gave Iran cash and legitimacy while pretending paperwork would tame jihad. Trump bombs the bad actors, rewards alignment, and makes the Saudis choose: Abraham Accords or no deal.

BlasterJack's avatar

My understanding of the Saudi mindset comes from Ray Stevens🙂

Ahab the Arab

The Sheik of the burning sand

He had emeralds and rubies just dripping off 'a him

And a ring on every finger of his hands

He wore a big ol' turban wrapped around his head

And a scimitar by his side

And every evening about midnight

He'd jump on his camel named Clyde...and ride

Sam Prentice's avatar

"With bells on his fingers, and rings on his toes, and a bone in his nose - ho ho!"

BJ54's avatar

Not his-- hers.

Marlan Hoerer's avatar

todays S.A. youth ?? genderitis hit there too ?

Doug's avatar

Oh, Lord, now I'm stuck with this song in my head for an entire day plus "Don't look, Ethel"

Marlene Swann's avatar

“Oh yes they call him the Streak!” Dyin over here.

Amy's avatar

Haha! I thought of that one immediately too!

Jeremy R's avatar

Mississippi squirrel is one of my favorites.

Marlan Hoerer's avatar

Being in Or. I like The HAIRCUT.

Raymond Fleischman's avatar

It was written and recorded long before the first Arab Oil Embargo, 1962.

revmaddog1948's avatar

Talk about a blast from the past thank you

revmaddog1948's avatar

Talk about a blast from the past thank you

revmaddog1948's avatar

Talk about a blast from the past thank you

revmaddog1948's avatar

Talk about a blast from the past thank you

revmaddog1948's avatar

Talk about a blast from the past thank you

revmaddog1948's avatar

Talk about a blast from the past thank you

revmaddog1948's avatar

Talk about a blast from the past thank you

revmaddog1948's avatar

Talk about a blast from the past thank you

Robert's avatar

Just as much as nobody knows who will be in charge of Saudi Arabia 10 years from now, the same goes for here. Reality and history of Obama’s dealings with Iran clearly tell us if Trump had not successfully interrupted him and Hillary had won two terms with possibly another Dem president after her, they would be fully nuclear bomb capable and maybe using them.

The US and NATO allies under that scenario would have sat idly by while chanting, “Not our problem!” After all, creating a problem and claiming they are innocent bystanders is about all they are good at now.

Retirednottired's avatar

"and maybe using them." No maybe about it. they have said so.

Susan Daniels's avatar

"Not one nuclear reactor was planned or built in America during his (Obama's)reign."

No, but the State of Georgia received licenses in 2011 to build two nuclear power plants, the first licenses since 1978. It came about because of a hearing that was held in front of a magistrate that I and others testified about Barack Obama's use of a stolen Social Security number. The judge, Michael Malihi, ruled we won by default. Two weeks later, he reversed his decision.

"On December 22, 2011, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (AJC) announced that federal regulators had officially approved the Westinghouse AP1000 reactor design. The headline read "Reactor design approved for Georgia Power's nuclear expansion project," and the article rightly noted that this decision "helps clear the path" and provided the final technical information needed for the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) to issue the final licenses."

I was later told, whether true or not I don't know, that Valerie Jarrett had called Malihi directly and told him to change his opinion. When I investigated him, I found that while in college his name was Mahmood Malihi.

TeaPartyGal's avatar

Obama's social security number issue was one of the 'red flags' about him, and I still believe the issue was never resolved and that the SSN was probably fraudulent. Thank you for your efforts in testifying about that. Also, the situation you describe above does indeed look fishy.

If Malihi was a federal judge, my first question would have been "Who appointed him?", and I would have suspected that Obama did, and that is why Jarrett had clout with Malihi. But as a magistrate judge in Georgia, I'm guessing he was either elected locally, or appointed by some Georgia official. Not all magistrates are even lawyers; is Malihi a lawyer? So I'm wondering what was the nature of the clout Jarrett exercised?

It is already known that Jarrett was a Chicago Communist, just like Obama. I've long suspected that one of the roles Valerie Jarrett played was as a "Human Resources director" for Obama, and together they seeded our government and judiciary with numerous communists. Jarrett probably had her finger on the network of Communists active around the country. Maybe that is how she knew Malihi. Or if Malihi is indeed a lawyer, where did he go to law school; and does he have any other Chicago connection?

My sense is that a high magnitude of seditious activity has gone on in this country over many decades. Probably the only way we will ever get it uncovered is for some insider to become a whistleblower. Maybe there is someone out there who was young and naive and participated in some of this sedition, but is more mature now and recognizes the damage that has been done, and decides to come forward. Not real likely; but not impossible either.

WTPuck's avatar

Jarrett was/is an iranian stooge.

Shrugged's avatar

100% Muslim Brotherhood led and protected.

Reddog's avatar

I believe we all knew that Obama was a fake. Just too many inconsistencies in his background. But this brings up the real problem, who or what confirms and vets a candidate for POTUS? It clearly was never done with Obama. This is a loophole that needs to be closed. It can never happen again. Obama was never forthcoming with his background. Why not? He was just the opposite. The question was never answered. And look at the mess we have now due to his actions.

Sam Prentice's avatar

I think our Deep State friends in the CIA groomed and provided both Bill Clinton and Obama for us. They both were very packaged. Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar and also traveled to Russia while a student. Obama was born in Hawaii, claimed he was a foreign-born Kenyan, spent his early years in Indonesia, and then prep school in Hawaii. Mediocre student but gets into Occidental, then somehow gets accepted into Columbia, but no one remembers him there. Has his major opponent's divorce records made public and wins the IL Senate seat. Two unremarkable years and is elected President. I guess it was all due to his superior intellect, ambition, and political savvy, right?

Susan Daniels's avatar

Clinton was kicked out of England when he raped nineteen-year-od Eileen Wellstone outside of a pub on a Friday night. To avoid embarrassing the U.S. or England, they did not prosecute; they just threw him out. He never attended Columbia, according to the late Dr. Henry Graff, who taught history there for forty-six years. Obama was in Indonesia from age six to ten. Yeah, right. Listen to him speak now without a speechwriter. He's stupid.

Marlan Hoerer's avatar

Deep state at work Redd .

Susan Daniels's avatar

Their own party vets them.

TeaPartyGal's avatar

Inadequate. Look at Graham Platner in Maine. And Tim Walz in Minnesota. It's probably really up to the Media. The problem was, at the time of Obama, the Right Media was much smaller and was ignored. And the Left Media deliberately ignored all the red flags and instead became hagiographers.

Sam Prentice's avatar

Left-wing media are actually Democrat operatives with press passes. Democrats would be laughed off the stage if we had an honest and impartial media.

Marlan Hoerer's avatar

Thank the GOOD LORD for the Dons ,and Elon who by the way .owned media in an interview by the Economist

Shrugged's avatar
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“ . . . that I and others testified about Barack Obama's use of a stolen Social Security number.”

That was bold! Thank you. If only we could have pursued Obama’s fake history to its source at that time that so much would be different today. It’s no wonder the deep state was so cocky about COVID after inventing Obama from nothing. He never attended university either - all fabricated.

TeaPartyGal's avatar

I'm with you, Shrugged. More thorough early vetting of Obama most likely would have prevented him from becoming President, because there were tons of red flags about him. One that shocked me, because I saw NO coverage of it back in 2008, was that 3 men who were known to have had homosexual relations with Obama died unexpectedly in a 6 week period in the fall of 2007. The mother of one of them raised a ruckus about Obama being behind it.

It is disturbing that America has been undermined in a big way by forces hostile to us. We have been like the frog in the water that is slowly brought to a boil. Trump's address to the nation a week ago to me was a turning point, as shown by Trump's very serious demeanor. When you put all the pieces together that we currently know about, it is incredibly shocking in aggregate.

Vast election fraud; vast corruption of every federal welfare program; vast corruption of federal agencies (USAID, EPA, etc.) to siphon billions of dollars to Leftist 'causes' (i.e., mainly to the Leftist operatives that ran the so-called 'causes')(e.g. $2 billion dollars to Stacy Abrams from the EPA--TWO BILLION!!!!); poisonous appointments to the federal judiciary; fraud in the ActBlue and Clinton Foundation money raising; and on and on and on. The Democratic Party is beyond question a RICO crime organization.

Have to stop now!!! Between this and my other comment today I guess that's enough for one morning. But geesh, the magnitude of the corruption is so vast.

Reddog's avatar

That comment needs to be framed and on everyone’s wall so we never forget. We have been living a lie of emended proportions for decades. I’m convinced the election process has been corrupt for a couple decades at least. When you look at how states resist openness in allowing their process to be audited you see the problem. The question should always be asked, “what reason would a state have for NOT wanting their election process to be transparent and adutiable”?

Sam Prentice's avatar

The trouble is we all know the answer to those rhetorical questions but nothing ever happens to stop it. It's like one of Mark Twain's famous sayings "Everybody always complains about the weather but no one ever does anything about it!"

Cookie McCall's avatar

TPG you are spot on!

Marlan Hoerer's avatar

An observation by Darth Cheney goes a bit like [ we know there is a lot we dont know in what we know ] ,seems like deep state talk around or over .

Cookie McCall's avatar

ValJar has covered for and protected BHO for a way long time

Big Dog 333's avatar

So, if true that Obama used a dead man’s SS number, why doesn’t FOX News investigate it and show us the proof (copy) of the evidence. Put it out there to prove this “man” was an imposter. Be done with it, throw the bastard on the scrap heap. Sounds pretty easy to do. What SS number is on his tax return? He is such a POS!

Shrugged's avatar
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Fox news hates Trump and can't be counted on to do anything truthful, especially if it is against the "first black man in the Whitehouse".

These details did come out back in the 2008 era - before and after the election - and it was quickly buried just as the COVID lies have been hidden. It is deep state originated and nobody will touch it.

Those sho have tried have a terible case of Arkancide.

Reddog's avatar

Truth likely lies somewhere in that records cave in PA most likely. We will never find out the truth because it would unravel a huge conspiracy and lead to a civil war.

Susan Daniels's avatar

I found the number in 2009 and could not get anyone to pay attention. The first story about it appeared in World Net Daily in 2011.

Shrugged's avatar

WOW! This makes sense as opposed to the fabricated “perfect” stories about Obama told over and over. It seems the Arkancide pandemic that started with the Clintons carried right into Obama’s years and thereafter.

No one person, group, or political party could pull this off and get away with it. It had to have roots in a deep state agency like the CIA.

It’s totally corrupt and purely evil.

Susan Daniels's avatar

I suspect John Brennan (CIA) did the inventing.

Shrugged's avatar
1dEdited

A converted Muslim himself.

Makes perfect sense . . .

If the "treasonous conspiracy" lawsuit moves forward now that Bondi is out, I suspect Brennan will disappear mysteriously.

Retirednottired's avatar

Fascinating...and disturbing.

Danimal28's avatar

Since 1948, at least, when the CIA was unleashed withe 'plausible deniability' I don't trust much after they have overturned governments.

What I trust is Trump sending our Navy to guard from Greenland around the Horn to the Pacific and the rest of the world can figure out their own sovereignty.

Oh, and Sophie Cunningham...

Cookie McCall's avatar

Sophie Cunningham is definitely a force for good! I really think she's pretty wonderful and she certainly does a great job trying to protect Caitlin Collins

Reddog's avatar

Trusting the CIA? They have proven to be just the opposite. The CIA should be reorganized and reduced to a size that is manageable for presidents. As for their black budget, the only people who do not know what their budget consists of is Americans. That is one change that needs to be made immediately. It’s an archaic issue that has outlived its usefulness. Just exactly what is our tax dollars paying for?

Danimal28's avatar

I am critical of the CIA.

Marlan Hoerer's avatar

On point Danimal28 !!

Steve (recovering lawyer)'s avatar

A few items that are worth noting. Saudi Arabia is largely populated by sunni moslems and the ruling family is completely sunni. Sunni moslems do not acept the existence of the so-called "twelfth imam," whose emergence from the well of occultation is brought about by creating strife and conflict in the world, as do the iranian shia "twelvers" who rule over that benighted country. Thus, it is entirely reasonable to prevent the shia iranian mullahs, who believe in the twelfth imam, from obtaining nuclear arms while encouraging the saudi sunni moslems to acquire nuclear technology for the production of energy. It is even reasonable to accept that the saudis might, should their mortal enemies in iran obtain a nuclear weapon, develop one of their own as a counterweight (recalling that the shia-sunni conflict has historically been a bitter and bloody one). Let us welcome the arrival of the moslem world to the concept of mutual assured destruction that we in the West have been living under for close to eighty years in our conflict with global communism. Another noteworthy observation is that all democrats are traitors to America. No exceptions.

Damn the torpedoes's avatar

Yes, but in the case of Obama as opposed to some of the simpletons in Congress, like Ed Markey, some are more traitorous than others.

Chuck Goldman's avatar

‘Let us welcome the arrival of the moslem world to the concept of mutual assured destruction that we in the West have been living under for close to eighty years in our conflict with global communism.’…

All these assholes read the same Koran. And believe the same bullshit.

Part of that bullshit is belief in the afterlife with its 72 Virgins and what not.

They may not prefer death over life, but it’s not the worse thing that could happen to them. Slinging Atomic Bombs back and forth is one way to show who the most powerful horse is with a bonus.

Sam Prentice's avatar

Just wait until they find out with the shortages, all of their 72 virgins-to-be are non-binary and have transitioned just for them.

Chuck Goldman's avatar

I like it!.😊 I’m also a fan of squirting them with pig juice so all they get is nothingness, No Virgins, No white grapes, No wine, No honey… no nothing… forever being tossed between the winds… alone

😊

Reddog's avatar

Chuck, do most Islamic people believe all that? I doubt it but the problem is, if they stray from Islam bad things happen to them by Sharia Law. Same issue as having the Second Ammedment or not.

Chuck Goldman's avatar

My comment disappeared again Red.

They all read the same Book. I gotta figure. The kids get it pushed at them.

Yeah at some level or another they do!

May I ask what this has to do with 2A. I‘m unclear!

Marlan Hoerer's avatar

Last but not lost in translation and all with TTDS !!

Dennis's avatar

Trump has set up another 4P proposal: “Go in peace, prosper and profit. If you do, we can cut a few deals. If you don’t, I’ll punch your lights out.”

Trump is big enough to do all of this. The real problem may be we need a nation, and presidents, strong enough to continue this work after Trump.

It’s Friday folks. Have a great weekend everybody!

Leonard Wechsler's avatar

I love the Taco Bell lettuce bit although I voted for NATO ally. Of course, I trust most of the Dems as much as the lettuce and understand they are equivalent to the same result. Unfortunately, I can't use Mr. Crapper's invention to flush them away.

Yes, we need inspections. But the Saudis are far more interested in making money than spreading revolution and disaster. The real problem may be if Democrats regain power, they may actually vote funding for Iran to build nuclear plants...perhaps they can give a lot of our money away to build one for Hamas.

After Iran, the one place I want to make certain doesn't get nukes is the United Nations.

Robert Brusca's avatar

Ah the demo-Brat song!!

hold the lettuce

they're in a pickel

democrats are always fickle

all they ask is that you shut up

they'll have it their way

have it their way

have it their way

have it their way

make commies kings!!

Retirednottired's avatar

Do you know Enzo D Baker?

Amy's avatar

“Good thing Mike Johnson is House speaker so he can stop any RINO shenanigans in the Senate.” Let’s hope he will, anyway.

Reddog's avatar

I read that too and wondered if Don was just being funny here. Mike Johnson is no leader.

Sam Prentice's avatar

I think he is better than any of our other recent Speakers. And he only has a couple vote margin to work with and a bunch of disgusting RINOs to try and herd our way.

Marlan Hoerer's avatar

Herding cats takes work and M.J. has done better than expected at it.

Retirednottired's avatar

He seems to manage the House reasonably well, but a leader? Sorry, no.

John Wiles's avatar

Trust - easy to give, hard to retrieve. A nation, us, who offers trust expects trust in return. Have we been taken advantage of? Of course. It is really people making decisions on our behalf, elected officials, starting with the President of the United States. Will there be another Trump? Probably not in my lifetime. In my children's lifetime? I certainly hope so. Saudi Arabia as a 'friend' means Iran is an enemy. "The enemy of my friend is my enemy." In order to destroy Iran, you have to kill the people in charge. We've done a fair job, but the Iranians are not stupid when it comes to war. They have had centuries of practice. Their diversifed military, the IRGC specifically, makes it hard to pin a group and kill them. Pinpoint accuracy of weaponry is difficult when the enemy hides in public and meets in secret. Boots on the ground is also not a good answer as 'they all look alike', sorry, is true if you are wearing a uniform, carrying a gun, and trying to be careful who you shoot. Not a good situation. Arming the populace would be ideal. Of course, that assumes the populace wants to get rid of their current form of government and try something new ... that's a maybe, maybe. Eventually, if we continue to target their military hideouts, boat ramps, meeting rooms, etc., we will get the bulk of them. Wouldn't it be nice if the Saudi's and the surrounding countries who are also being attacked said, "Hey, enough, we know who the bad guys are next door. We are all going in and kick their ass until we find a generation who will listen." Wishful thinking? Probably, but you never know in today's every changing international political climate. Of course, getting the RINO's and the Leftist Marxist, Socialists, and Communists out of our own congress and all positions of authority would be a really good thing as well, too. Ah, Fridays. Is it 5:00 yet?

TeaPartyGal's avatar

On top of the difficulty in weeding out the Iranian people involved (IRGC etc.) is the underlying fact that the religion itself--Islam--is the real problem, and exposing it and eradicating its influence on millions and millions of people is going to take a couple generations. A sea-change in our thinking about Islam has occurred, as we are now realizing its hostility to and attacks on every other political and religious system on earth

Still, Trump HAD NO CHOICE-- we HAD to eliminate Iran's nuclear capability. So the multi-generational corrective action against Islam has now officially begun.

Marlan Hoerer's avatar

Maybe PDJT is a newer improved Richard The Lionhearted. ?

Reddog's avatar

Dick the Lionhearted is more myth than reality.

Reddog's avatar

Yes, you get it right. Islam is the reason most of the ME has not evolved culturally. If it were not for oil, they would still be living in dirt floor huts.

UncleWiggly's avatar

All but one of the 9-11 terrorists were Saudi's.

Liberty Belle's avatar

Thank you. That’s what I’ve been thinking and wondering about,

Keith Korman's avatar

"Good thing Mike Johnson is House speaker so he can stop any RINO shenanigans in the Senate." Alas, the Thune/Catamite Senate isn't engaged in shenanigans, but outright defiance of the will of the American People. Gotta wonder who bankrolls that Quisling Thune.

Cookie McCall's avatar

Thune is despicable IMHO

Reddog's avatar

Thune is exactly the same person he was before getting the Leadership. He’s all talk, no action, no leadership. Most of us know those types as fake leaders in way over his head. He’s keeps playing games with his own party rather than actually providing real leadership and getting something done. If he was paid based on performance, no pay check would be forthcoming.

Dutchmn007's avatar

“Carbon neutral”? Mr Surber don’t fall for that total non sequitir. Carbon is the fundamental building block of nature; without it none of us would be here.

Robert Brusca's avatar

Ah yes the truth it out...we are all just...carbon copies!!

James Mead's avatar

Unlike Taco Bell we have to deal with the Sauds