Though his comment regarding work here is actually true right now. All those jobs shipped overseas are starting to return, as China circles the drain. But NR can't help themselves but be condescending about it - and in a way, thin skinned. Because they are being attacked by the song, because they have lost site of what makes America. And like China, NR is circling the drain.
The jobs are returning with In-sourced labor from overseas and rolling across the border. When was the last time you saw a Native English speaking house-framer in the last 25 years? And, they're taking the plumbing and electrical jobs as well, sleeping a dozen to a room in suburban Wash. DC.
Those jobs have gone that way long ago. Roofers and framers are pretty much all Mexicans here now. I'm talking about manufacturing jobs and plants being built. These will look much different than the factories back in Asia. And the workers will make bank.
So, even blue-collar workers, who pay taxes, FICA and double-social security, for those who have their own contracting business, deserve to have their jobs taken away by illegal immigrants working under the table, because after-all it's a "sweaty labor job" that anyone can do, and doesn't take any particular skill, collecting food stamps, subsidized housing and welfare. Even as the "Re-pube-ican Party" as Mark Levin refers to them, each year lobbies to bring more H1B, and H2B IT and management jobs further undermining Americans. STEM anyone? No, it's just cheaper to import them from other countries.
Of course not. Not what I was saying. Those factory jobs coming back are blue collar jobs, the jobs that left for China. I was agreeing with you on the building industry. Though in fairness - our Mexican friends are actually going home more than they are coming here - and that's been going on for awhile now. And as China implodes, and better paying jobs in Mexico pull more Mexicans home, even the building industry will need to find other workers. And the central Americans who are coming through a very porous southern border are not at the same skill level as their Mexican counterparts. And labor shortages will facilitate even more jobs. Now, we need to quit having men file for SS disability. Overall we are missing 7 million men from the labor force - perhaps chased out by all that outsourcing to China. C'mon back guys.
I voted for Trump, because let's honest; the Left has progressed so far into their agenda that, at this point in time, no one else but Trump has the steely spine to turn things around. But Trump can't do it alone. It will take Trump and the rest of us to save America.
Twenty-five years ago or so I used to correspond occassionally with some of the writers at NR Derbyshire, Dreher, Williamson, and - groan - even Goldberg. Derbyshire was memory-holed, Dreher went on to ponder religion, while all the rest appear to have had their brains stewed in swamp water. Old man Buckley may have been an elitist (in the good sense of the word) but he always had common sense. NR's current clowns, not so much.
You need to read some of Rod Dreher's current articles (found here on Substack); he has come out swinging on a regular basis lately - and much of what he's saying/writing mirrors our good brother, Don, here.
I knew Rod back in his Dallas Morning News days; but when he left we lost touch (much more my fault than his). But I've resurfaced and am now an active lurker on his Substack. I don't always agree with him, but he's thoughtful person and has a great ability to get people to think about things that ought to be important. He's an odd duck (I think he'd agree with that characterization), but we need odd ducks - lots of them.
Aug 15, 2023·edited Aug 15, 2023Liked by Don Surber
Oliver Anthony doesn't take sides in politics. He damns both parties and the entire D.C. system today. And we love it. Anthony hits a jackpot button in most people because the emotional screams in his lyrics finally give us sanity in this lunatic world. It is cathartic to listen to him.
He was attacked by NR because he is over the target. Epstein and Ped island owns the high-brow society which is why Epstein's lists will be buried by the FBI just like Hunter's laptop.
Satan is running America. Oliver Anthony is a modern day prophet. I'll follow the prophet.
Señor Suber: Thank you for a place to say the following. I had to vote my own party: Hillbillies and Rednecks. Don't let Andrew Breitbart have died in vain! Mark Antonio Wright is a self-righteous arsehole. Sadly, his tribe is very large. Therefore, I am so thankful for a place like this to be able to say that. Mil gracias.
Aug 15, 2023·edited Aug 15, 2023Liked by Don Surber
Guthrie got his…Huntingtons Chorea at 56. Not only do you punch out as basically a gibbering drooling idiot, early, but you never know which one of your Kids or Grandkids or Great Grandkids also get the ‘Door Prize’…and you are lucid enough long enough to understand that. For example his two older daughters also died from it. But he sounds like the kind of asshole who wouldn’t care. 8 kids from 3 wives…what do you think?
‘Misguided’, ‘downbeat’ but pure of heart’, ‘need to connect to the common people’… blah, blah, blah… all we have is their unrepentant words.
And left unrepentant those same words have helped sway 3 generations of NA kids to the left .and helped put us were we are today. Different people for sure, but the same cultural poison!
Sometimes people do things they know are wrong to get attention. Is the best response to give them attention? Or to let them alone so they can ponder the consequences? Perhaps we should not give attention to the NR...
awww...let's deepen the pool of ridicule...ain't that what the leftist handbook dedicated to Satan says do...Mister Surber's brand of ridicule works especially well because he backs it up with little known facts. That "this machine kills fascists" bit really ices old Woody's nasty cake...
It seems to me that there is truth on both sides of this argument. Like everything else in life, it is never is all one thing and none of the other. Yes, it is true that we have been betrayed by the globalist moneymen by their offshoring of what was formerly American industrial capacity, but one must ask why did they do so? Is it because a unionized workforce demanded more and more without concomitantly adding value to the thing they labored to produce? I ask this, not in an accusatory way, but simply as a reflection of reality. I have much sympathy for the sentiment expressed in Anthony's song, but I also believe that it remains true that opportunities are available for those who are willing and able to find them. "Willingness" and "ability" both are required, however. Those who lack one or both of these qualities will not find success, but that has ever been the case. The only constant in life is change, and "adapt or die" is not merely a biological maxim. What disturbs me more than our changing economic circumstances is the political pendulum that is swinging toward fascism (in its original sense, the welding together of industry and the state) and the iron grip of tyranny that grows stronger and tighter around our individual lives, which is the outgrowth and result of the laxity that prevails in our individual moral choices. If we, as individuals choose to not control ourselves and restrain our passions, the government will do it for us. The Founders knew this because of their familiarity with Holy Scripture; we have lost this familiarity and thus seen fit to abdicate personal responsibility, allowing/requiring government to step in and enforce strictures of its choice. These strictures may not be the ones we would freely choose, given the option, but they are and will always be enforced with considerable vigor nonetheless. And this, too, has ever been and will ever be true until Jesus comes. Which brings me to my final point, viz., that our physical lives are destined end, but our spiritual existence is everlasting. "How should we then live" in this world in order to prepare for the next is the only question of importance; every aspect of our physical existence shall end, whether good or bad, but the prospect of eternal bliss or damnation remains completely in our hands. The choice in this regard is entirely ours; let us aspire to choose wisely.
Excellent comments; a very balanced analysis of our current situation.
And as you alluded, much of it has to do with the human condition; we are sinners who make bad choices all around - whether it's the "greedy" factory owner who sets wages low enough to make questionable profits (not always, I admit) or the "less than motivated" workers on the floor who want everything (and more) that labor unions can get for them. We're all infected with this human malady, and as you said, our Founders understood it much better than we do today.
I would offer one correction: while our CURRENT physical lives ARE destined to end, we will be raised from the dead with new PHYSICAL BODIES, and we will inhabit a restored creation; a NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH.
Jesus was raised with a physical body:
"See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have” (Luke 24:39, English Standard Version).
So we will live in a new physical world, and experience life as God intended when he first created all things. That doesn't change your basic argument, but it's important not to confuse a Greek understanding of "body=bad; spirit=good" with the Christian understanding of the bodily resurrection from the dead: those who believe in Christ raised to eternal life, and those who reject Christ also raised to eternal punishment.
In the Peshitta, a 5th Century Aramaic New Testament, the word used for "resurrection" is “stand up.” While there are many significant differences noted between the Dead Sea scrolls/Aramaic and the widely used King James Bible. This issue is truly consistent and is the basis of “faith.” Nice comments.
You are correct. I look forward to receiving my resurrection body in the fullness of time. My intention was to emphasize the futility of investing exclusively in this life, which is short and ignoring eternity.
Don, all your posts, but especially this one make it so clear to me that all other journalists (or even so-called journalists) are so woefully under-educated in comparison to you. It isn't even a fair fight.
THANK YOU for educating us all to relevant history, even when we all knew all along what was correct in our 'gut'.
It is interesting that the Americans who joined the Communist Party or who joined Communist youth groups in the 1930's and '40s believed that Communism would protect the working man from "big business" that paid slave wages. None of them knew what Stalin was doing at the time, and if they were told the truth about Stalin they wouldn't have believed it. They idealized FDR, and socialism and communism because they thought these were good for the working man. Starting with Clinton, the so-called progressive movement forgot the working men and women of America, and chose the side of the globalist predators and crony capitalism of the CCP. They have brought crony capitalism to the US in which the working and middle class have lost tremendous wealth to the billionaire class, and they have brought totalitarianism with it.
The so called progressive movement is no longer about protecting workers from big business, it is about protecting the government allied with big business from the workers.
Here is an article that describes how the government created a cellular network that has two way communication with each election precinct in the country. Through this network they have been able to monitor the election and even change results since 2020.
Wright is wrong.
The condescension of Wright and NR is so deep, my chest waders are useless.
Redneck MAGA greetings to all.
Your ''my chest waders are useless'' is the funniest thing since my empty coffee cup. Going for the refill before you let loose with another one.
Redneck Mega MAGA Mensch Greetings right back atcha Pard
Though his comment regarding work here is actually true right now. All those jobs shipped overseas are starting to return, as China circles the drain. But NR can't help themselves but be condescending about it - and in a way, thin skinned. Because they are being attacked by the song, because they have lost site of what makes America. And like China, NR is circling the drain.
The jobs are returning with In-sourced labor from overseas and rolling across the border. When was the last time you saw a Native English speaking house-framer in the last 25 years? And, they're taking the plumbing and electrical jobs as well, sleeping a dozen to a room in suburban Wash. DC.
Those jobs have gone that way long ago. Roofers and framers are pretty much all Mexicans here now. I'm talking about manufacturing jobs and plants being built. These will look much different than the factories back in Asia. And the workers will make bank.
So, even blue-collar workers, who pay taxes, FICA and double-social security, for those who have their own contracting business, deserve to have their jobs taken away by illegal immigrants working under the table, because after-all it's a "sweaty labor job" that anyone can do, and doesn't take any particular skill, collecting food stamps, subsidized housing and welfare. Even as the "Re-pube-ican Party" as Mark Levin refers to them, each year lobbies to bring more H1B, and H2B IT and management jobs further undermining Americans. STEM anyone? No, it's just cheaper to import them from other countries.
Of course not. Not what I was saying. Those factory jobs coming back are blue collar jobs, the jobs that left for China. I was agreeing with you on the building industry. Though in fairness - our Mexican friends are actually going home more than they are coming here - and that's been going on for awhile now. And as China implodes, and better paying jobs in Mexico pull more Mexicans home, even the building industry will need to find other workers. And the central Americans who are coming through a very porous southern border are not at the same skill level as their Mexican counterparts. And labor shortages will facilitate even more jobs. Now, we need to quit having men file for SS disability. Overall we are missing 7 million men from the labor force - perhaps chased out by all that outsourcing to China. C'mon back guys.
With Peking (ha! screw the new name) recently flooded, the "drain" comment is apt.
The complacent and (grossly) over-fed, Soviet-era East German Stasi yes-man (NR):
https://www.google.com/search?q=Mark+Antonio+Wright&sca_esv=557191907&hl=en&tbm=isch&sxsrf=AB5stBiaOMXJ9aZhi4ShJaq1Pr9tiZxiOQ%3A1692129731331&source=hp&biw=1138&bih=555&ei=w9nbZNfYEduf5NoP3_ObQA&iflsig=AD69kcEAAAAAZNvn032ahWM8BwcyseCfMnxveuSR1Fnk&ved=0ahUKEwiXxrC8ut-AAxXbD1kFHd_5BggQ4dUDCAc&oq=Mark+Antonio+Wright&gs_lp=EgNpbWciE01hcmsgQW50b25pbyBXcmlnaHQyBBAAGANIlgxQAFgAcAB4AJABAJgBSaABSaoBATG4AQzIAQD4AQL4AQGKAgtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZw&sclient=img
It's amazing. Somehow, I know what they look like before I see the photos.
Biden's best friend, I imagine.
Dam' Shlongy I was just getting up long hot night, and had mouthfull of coffee.😁
Hatfield and McCoy greetings to you all.
😂😂😂
08-16-23: The full title of the magazine is, apparently, the "National Socialist German Workers' Party Review."
I got emailed your comment, which subsequently must've been deleted--LOL!
I won't repeat it, though, due to the family audience. Cheers Schlong...
I voted for Hillbillies and rednecks because they are the real Americans and they are the ones who will vote for Trump.
As to National Review - Bill Buckley wept.
I voted for Trump, because let's honest; the Left has progressed so far into their agenda that, at this point in time, no one else but Trump has the steely spine to turn things around. But Trump can't do it alone. It will take Trump and the rest of us to save America.
I'm right there with you kitty!
Absent Trump, no one else can bushwack through the swamp.
Or win the fight uphill against Kings Mountain.
If you are a Republican/Independent/Libertarian/right of centre/decent human being -- there is no other vote than Trump to save your country.
“progressed” with the Repubs too…
Once again Don, you hit it out of the park
So you are saying National Review is north of Richmond?
South of Barry's belt buckle.
😂😂😂😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
And Big Mike's mistress (what a terrible thing to say about an ex-president. Tsk tsk tsk...).
Twenty-five years ago or so I used to correspond occassionally with some of the writers at NR Derbyshire, Dreher, Williamson, and - groan - even Goldberg. Derbyshire was memory-holed, Dreher went on to ponder religion, while all the rest appear to have had their brains stewed in swamp water. Old man Buckley may have been an elitist (in the good sense of the word) but he always had common sense. NR's current clowns, not so much.
William F. Buckley completely understood Rush H. Limbaugh, and visa-versa. We were better for it while it lasted.
Golly I miss them both.
more like 30 years for me. i met both Derb and Goldberg in 2002 - separate events. i defenestrated NR on their dumping of Derb and never looked back.
When they dumped Derb and didn't back Mark Steyn, that was the end of the NR as I knew it.
Williamson, despite his roots, has turned into an elitist snob.
You need to read some of Rod Dreher's current articles (found here on Substack); he has come out swinging on a regular basis lately - and much of what he's saying/writing mirrors our good brother, Don, here.
I knew Rod back in his Dallas Morning News days; but when he left we lost touch (much more my fault than his). But I've resurfaced and am now an active lurker on his Substack. I don't always agree with him, but he's thoughtful person and has a great ability to get people to think about things that ought to be important. He's an odd duck (I think he'd agree with that characterization), but we need odd ducks - lots of them.
Dreher's most recent column:
https://roddreher.substack.com/p/did-the-devil-go-down-to-georgia?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=136360&post_id=136055990&isFreemail=false&utm_medium=email
Oliver Anthony doesn't take sides in politics. He damns both parties and the entire D.C. system today. And we love it. Anthony hits a jackpot button in most people because the emotional screams in his lyrics finally give us sanity in this lunatic world. It is cathartic to listen to him.
He was attacked by NR because he is over the target. Epstein and Ped island owns the high-brow society which is why Epstein's lists will be buried by the FBI just like Hunter's laptop.
Satan is running America. Oliver Anthony is a modern day prophet. I'll follow the prophet.
Spot on. I also believe that Comet Pizza was a base for the pedophiles in DC.
Yes. “Podesta” Pizza. It was true.
Is ANYONE in the Demo-rat Party straight?
The tell is generally when they spend so much time batching. You're right and you hit a nerve.
Señor Suber: Thank you for a place to say the following. I had to vote my own party: Hillbillies and Rednecks. Don't let Andrew Breitbart have died in vain! Mark Antonio Wright is a self-righteous arsehole. Sadly, his tribe is very large. Therefore, I am so thankful for a place like this to be able to say that. Mil gracias.
https://youtu.be/9o-iuw58sCU
Good ol' Hank Thompson, thanks.
Excellent work. The National Review should change its name to the National Uniparty.
Or "Uniparty Review".
The full title of the magazine is the "National Socialist German Workers' Party Review."
Guthrie got his…Huntingtons Chorea at 56. Not only do you punch out as basically a gibbering drooling idiot, early, but you never know which one of your Kids or Grandkids or Great Grandkids also get the ‘Door Prize’…and you are lucid enough long enough to understand that. For example his two older daughters also died from it. But he sounds like the kind of asshole who wouldn’t care. 8 kids from 3 wives…what do you think?
That makes him sound like the first black folk singer...
Gutherie was a misguided Californian okie. I get it. Lots and lots of turmoil at that time.
Pete Seeger was a spoiled rich kid who never wanted for anything in his life.
Different people
‘Misguided’, ‘downbeat’ but pure of heart’, ‘need to connect to the common people’… blah, blah, blah… all we have is their unrepentant words.
And left unrepentant those same words have helped sway 3 generations of NA kids to the left .and helped put us were we are today. Different people for sure, but the same cultural poison!
Sometimes people do things they know are wrong to get attention. Is the best response to give them attention? Or to let them alone so they can ponder the consequences? Perhaps we should not give attention to the NR...
awww...let's deepen the pool of ridicule...ain't that what the leftist handbook dedicated to Satan says do...Mister Surber's brand of ridicule works especially well because he backs it up with little known facts. That "this machine kills fascists" bit really ices old Woody's nasty cake...
No, they deserve ridicule.
America--LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT !
I prefer the Nez Peirce version.. "America love it or give it back."
On a belt buckle my cousin wears
WOW. I haven't heard that term to describe a part of something you would wear in ages.
It seems to me that there is truth on both sides of this argument. Like everything else in life, it is never is all one thing and none of the other. Yes, it is true that we have been betrayed by the globalist moneymen by their offshoring of what was formerly American industrial capacity, but one must ask why did they do so? Is it because a unionized workforce demanded more and more without concomitantly adding value to the thing they labored to produce? I ask this, not in an accusatory way, but simply as a reflection of reality. I have much sympathy for the sentiment expressed in Anthony's song, but I also believe that it remains true that opportunities are available for those who are willing and able to find them. "Willingness" and "ability" both are required, however. Those who lack one or both of these qualities will not find success, but that has ever been the case. The only constant in life is change, and "adapt or die" is not merely a biological maxim. What disturbs me more than our changing economic circumstances is the political pendulum that is swinging toward fascism (in its original sense, the welding together of industry and the state) and the iron grip of tyranny that grows stronger and tighter around our individual lives, which is the outgrowth and result of the laxity that prevails in our individual moral choices. If we, as individuals choose to not control ourselves and restrain our passions, the government will do it for us. The Founders knew this because of their familiarity with Holy Scripture; we have lost this familiarity and thus seen fit to abdicate personal responsibility, allowing/requiring government to step in and enforce strictures of its choice. These strictures may not be the ones we would freely choose, given the option, but they are and will always be enforced with considerable vigor nonetheless. And this, too, has ever been and will ever be true until Jesus comes. Which brings me to my final point, viz., that our physical lives are destined end, but our spiritual existence is everlasting. "How should we then live" in this world in order to prepare for the next is the only question of importance; every aspect of our physical existence shall end, whether good or bad, but the prospect of eternal bliss or damnation remains completely in our hands. The choice in this regard is entirely ours; let us aspire to choose wisely.
Excellent comments; a very balanced analysis of our current situation.
And as you alluded, much of it has to do with the human condition; we are sinners who make bad choices all around - whether it's the "greedy" factory owner who sets wages low enough to make questionable profits (not always, I admit) or the "less than motivated" workers on the floor who want everything (and more) that labor unions can get for them. We're all infected with this human malady, and as you said, our Founders understood it much better than we do today.
I would offer one correction: while our CURRENT physical lives ARE destined to end, we will be raised from the dead with new PHYSICAL BODIES, and we will inhabit a restored creation; a NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH.
Jesus was raised with a physical body:
"See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have” (Luke 24:39, English Standard Version).
So we will live in a new physical world, and experience life as God intended when he first created all things. That doesn't change your basic argument, but it's important not to confuse a Greek understanding of "body=bad; spirit=good" with the Christian understanding of the bodily resurrection from the dead: those who believe in Christ raised to eternal life, and those who reject Christ also raised to eternal punishment.
In the Peshitta, a 5th Century Aramaic New Testament, the word used for "resurrection" is “stand up.” While there are many significant differences noted between the Dead Sea scrolls/Aramaic and the widely used King James Bible. This issue is truly consistent and is the basis of “faith.” Nice comments.
You are correct. I look forward to receiving my resurrection body in the fullness of time. My intention was to emphasize the futility of investing exclusively in this life, which is short and ignoring eternity.
in grade school and in scouts we sang this parody:
this land is my land
this land ain't your land
i got a shotgun
and you ain't got one
if you don't get off
i'll blow your head off
this land is private property
Don, all your posts, but especially this one make it so clear to me that all other journalists (or even so-called journalists) are so woefully under-educated in comparison to you. It isn't even a fair fight.
THANK YOU for educating us all to relevant history, even when we all knew all along what was correct in our 'gut'.
Don is our Rush in print.
It is interesting that the Americans who joined the Communist Party or who joined Communist youth groups in the 1930's and '40s believed that Communism would protect the working man from "big business" that paid slave wages. None of them knew what Stalin was doing at the time, and if they were told the truth about Stalin they wouldn't have believed it. They idealized FDR, and socialism and communism because they thought these were good for the working man. Starting with Clinton, the so-called progressive movement forgot the working men and women of America, and chose the side of the globalist predators and crony capitalism of the CCP. They have brought crony capitalism to the US in which the working and middle class have lost tremendous wealth to the billionaire class, and they have brought totalitarianism with it.
The so called progressive movement is no longer about protecting workers from big business, it is about protecting the government allied with big business from the workers.
Here is an article that describes how the government created a cellular network that has two way communication with each election precinct in the country. Through this network they have been able to monitor the election and even change results since 2020.
https://www.israpundit.org/report-engineers-discover-nationwide-cellular-network-connects-election-equipment-and-gives-federal-government-access-to-election-systems-at-precinct-level/comment-page-1/#comment-63356000264571
It is incorrect to say American commies didn’t know. They looked away and ate the omelet