Jim Thompson wrote, “Pollster Frank Luntz and Historian Doris Goodwin Offer Up Ridiculous Claims About the Presidential Debate.” Few men are as well-named as Luntz. Thompson said, “Luntz claims that the last two presidential campaigns, beginning with Trump versus Clinton in 2016 and then Trump versus Biden in 2020, were the beginning of the end of democracy. It seems everything in politics is ‘the end of democracy.’ Luntz claimed that personal invectives and insults are too debasing and, apparently, a sign of the end of democracy. Luntz is a pollster, not a historian. Maybe he’s unaware of the long history of politicians insulting each other. While Lincoln and Douglas were debating, they were long on insults; they were just more creative with their rhetoric.
Anyone paying attention has noticed the increased frequency of Biden's brain freezes. Unlike the State of the Union, Biden will have to actually think about what he is going to say and put together those thoughts in words. No notes and no earpiece to nudge him when his brain locks up. My hunch is this week of Biden 'preparation' is to test the drug cocktail on him to see its effectiveness. Biden memorizing anything at this point in his dementia is a red herring being trolled by the MSM.
I’ve been wondering about what all of those experimental cocktails and the practice of standing for 90 minutes will have done to Pedo Joe by Thursday night. He should be exhausted from the standing and the mock debates and his brain has surely been damaged by the cocktails bouncing it all around his skull. Seems to me that he’s ripe to blow a fuse mid-debate, especially if Trump prods him even a bit.
I’ve been thinking the overload of pharmaceuticals that they’ve been foisting into Biden these past 3+ years have got to be making him a ticking time bomb for a stroke or some such adverse physical event.
It could also explain the appearance of rapid decline in him of late - it’s gonna catch up with you sooner or later, and his body, not to mention his mind, will have zero ability to “bounce back”, just even more rapidly decline or fail altogether.
Sad. These people are malevolent.
Although he and his wicked wife are probably “all in” on the gambit.
That should be trump’s whole strategy. Make statements that will overload the circuits. Even throw in a few misdirection statements to confuse the old man.
They are the two “front men” and will take the heat in the initial line of fire, but no doubt there are others behind the scenes. I sure wouldn’t want to be any of those people. What a butt-puckering-squirm-fest.
The earpiece has been surgically embedded in his "brain" during his stay at Camp David. And another embedded piece of electronics will provide a shock when necessary to keep him standing and awake.
I really don’t think that an earpiece would work in this case. Pedo Joe can’t remember more than 2-3 words at a time and he would have to stop and listen, then repeat the words and then stop and listen again. I guess if his handlers want to get rid of him and make him look even more demented, they can try it.
"midsummer’s night’s scream" "mumble in the jungle" if the event mislabeled a debate leaves us with catch phrases as good as this it might be worth it.
Still not a reason to watch a country trying to pretend this spectacle matters. Most will be watching to see Biden make a fool of himself or freeze. The rest will be watching to see if Trump is the bully they think he is. Just 90 minutes of wasted time.
True. My preference would be an event where each side would appoint a representative to cross-examine their opponent for 2 hours under oath on live tv. I would watch every minute of that.
The fact that a special counsel found FJB incompetent to stand trial for mishandling classified material yet can somehow be President and indeed run for a second term demonstrates the terminal nature of this once great republic. The so called debate is irrelevant.
Hur's cynicism: He's too incompetent to stand trial, but he good enough for guvment work. Let's let him be POTUS. It'll look so good on his resume or memorial plaque. whichever comes first.
“ But I want to clear up some disinformation. CNN did not — repeat, not — give the questions to the White House in advance. The White House is giving CNN the questions.”
I am with you on this issue, Don. I haven’t watched a debate since Reagan. Thats the truth. I don’t vote on camera appeal or because someone misspoke. They are a complete waste of my time. If someone is so undecided about a candidate that they need the debates to choose one, they have no idea what matters. The debates are more about showmanship than substance. Trump is winning on ideas and the poor performance of the current regime. Im not going to second guess Trump here but what is to be gained from this event? Biden is losing on his own so why take a chance on inadvertently helping him? There is a major reset happening in politics today. Both parties are at the end of an era of sorts. The Democrats will likely learn nothing from the election results and double down on their radical side. The only people who believe their rhetoric is the DNC. They have been dying for a couple decades now. The Democrats problem is they have become too corrupt and can no longer cover it up. People know when they are being lied to and ignored. The GOP will say, “see, we won because of our ideas”, never admitting that party voters are fed up with their talk tough, do-nothing history. We are going to see big changes in the GOP in the next four years, not by choice but because Trump will force it to happen. Mr McConnell and Mr. Johnson will not be in leadership come 2028. The party is either going to change and start fixing this country or die with the Dem party. The debates will change no ones mind. They will only boost ratings for the dying cable news industry temporarily.
Sad thing is, it will only make it painfully obvious to the knowing and further anger them. The unknowing will never admit their mistakes. Doesn’t matter how bad it gets due to their ridiculous policy. It’s always the other person’s fault. The left never admits defeat. They never concede. Look at the past elections.
If not for the elders correcting the young. . . Truer words were never spoken.
Isn't just the Dems. This election will be about how dissatisfied the voters are with the GOP’s performance as well. Both parties are in trouble and dying due to the results of their actions. Let the rebuilding begin.
I predict a “Dave” moment where the drug highball causes a permanent brain freeze on camera. This gives national sympathy to the Democratic Party “replacement “ candidate. For the record an animatronic dummy at Disney World has more life and intelligence than Biden. Trump is Daniel heading into the Den of Lions. He will be fine. FJB
Cynical Dan here: This debate will start with two words: convicted felon and swiftly move into areas where Trump has the banana republic 'gag' order.
I pray that Trump will emulate his "All In" podcast performance by being relaxed and smoothly return any 'convicted felon' nonsense right back to the Biden family.
Interesting point re: the gag orders. I’d thought about that just the other day. It would be a most clever ploy.
The ”table turn” for that is for Trump is to respond by merely noting, while unable to answer the question directly due to such constraints, at least he has been found to be competent to stand trial at all, “unlike yourself Joe.”
And then, when Biden tries to defend his competency, get him to promise to release his deposition video. Win-win.
My reasoning was which is the dumbest idea and I chose that because men are from Mars or is it Venus? And Jill would have a hissy fit, lol, she likes complete control. Dr., my eye.
I can’t think of any reason to let Joe Biden debate anybody except to disqualify Joe Biden as a candidate. He can’t even give a prepared speech for more than a few seconds before going off the rails. There’s no way he will be able to go toe to toe extemporaneously against President Trump. I just can’t figure out at this point who the Dems, or how the Dems, can come up with a candidate who people like and overcome all the procedural issues to get them on the ballot. Of course, breaking laws and procedures is not really an obstacle for the psycho Commie party of Hamas and the Bud Light girl. I’m sure there will be mucho subterfuge between now and November.
Yes Don, the nondebate clown shows should be ended. But please, you could have made your point without insulting soccer fans the world over. Soccer matches are scheduled for 90 total minutes and are guaranteed to have more interesting moments than any modern US Presidential debate. It has always been so. Even the vaunted Kennedy-Nixon debate is best remembered for Nixon's ghostlike appearance. (He refused to wear makeup.) *** Sadly, that first televised debate usured in the modern era of electing the most photogenic pols. Substance of thought and character were jettisoned in favor of image. *** Today Americans are being subjected to a "Let's all get excited" moment. Viewer discretion is advised. The entertainment will be presented by indefatigable Trump basher Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, former wife of the CIA Chief of Staff who swore under oath the Hunter Biden computer was Russian disinformation. Those two Dem operatives will entertain viewers with their standard Trump bashing while shielding a drugged up Biden as much as possible. Whoopee! *** I have a more appealing alternative. I'll be watching some new paint dry.
This whole debacle is embarrassing for our once great country and painful to experience where FJB and whoever is pulling the puppets strings have taken us
You are on target. Sadly, Trump better be very careful tonight and keep the mouth under control. This is Trumps election to lose. This debate is meaningless outside of the chattering class who make money from it. If the country needs more assurance that Biden is no longer in control, then something has is wrong with people and their method of picking a candidate who is best for the country. I just don't watch these charades anymore.
My knowledge of Biden goes back to my days working in DC when he was called "Plugs" then and a joke. I felt Obama was pulling another bad joke on us when he chose him as VP. I am not sure I can watch him more than 3 minutes; his face and his treacherous energy is unacceptable. I am really wondering what Trump has up his sleeve to accept this debacle; maybe a challenge?
It is so sad to me that our “President” ish will have a tag team match with our President and have two extras on his side leading the way and protecting him. I think debates could be useful but not the ones we have had since 1960. I missed that debate because it must have been past my bedtime. Instead of “journalist” or more aptly said democrats with press credentials asking questions why can the candidates ask questions. That way we can learn a number of things. What the candidates think we the people think is important and how the other candidate answers. It will also give us some idea of how they handle pressure. The debates I have seen since I set my own bed time have been more about the “journalist” than the public.
Anyone paying attention has noticed the increased frequency of Biden's brain freezes. Unlike the State of the Union, Biden will have to actually think about what he is going to say and put together those thoughts in words. No notes and no earpiece to nudge him when his brain locks up. My hunch is this week of Biden 'preparation' is to test the drug cocktail on him to see its effectiveness. Biden memorizing anything at this point in his dementia is a red herring being trolled by the MSM.
I’ve been wondering about what all of those experimental cocktails and the practice of standing for 90 minutes will have done to Pedo Joe by Thursday night. He should be exhausted from the standing and the mock debates and his brain has surely been damaged by the cocktails bouncing it all around his skull. Seems to me that he’s ripe to blow a fuse mid-debate, especially if Trump prods him even a bit.
Funny you should say that.
I’ve been thinking the overload of pharmaceuticals that they’ve been foisting into Biden these past 3+ years have got to be making him a ticking time bomb for a stroke or some such adverse physical event.
It could also explain the appearance of rapid decline in him of late - it’s gonna catch up with you sooner or later, and his body, not to mention his mind, will have zero ability to “bounce back”, just even more rapidly decline or fail altogether.
Sad. These people are malevolent.
Although he and his wicked wife are probably “all in” on the gambit.
still thing Biden got the saline vs Pfizer shots
Dittos. And Kackling Kamala as well. Ringer's Lactate water.
That should be trump’s whole strategy. Make statements that will overload the circuits. Even throw in a few misdirection statements to confuse the old man.
Get FJB on a Roseanne Roseannadanna rant.
All so true. If this happens, I hope Trump steps back and quietly allows the scene to play out, while FJB’s team scrambles to manage damage control.
Do you mean Tapper and Bash ?
They are the two “front men” and will take the heat in the initial line of fire, but no doubt there are others behind the scenes. I sure wouldn’t want to be any of those people. What a butt-puckering-squirm-fest.
Reminds me of Diamonds are Forever w Thumper & Bambi…
The earpiece has been surgically embedded in his "brain" during his stay at Camp David. And another embedded piece of electronics will provide a shock when necessary to keep him standing and awake.
Tesla neural-link modified to a undetectable hiden-biden anal-log link…
Like those electric fence collars that are used on dogs!
Rush had to get an implant to hear..Biden gets one to get rebuttals from his demonic masters
I really don’t think that an earpiece would work in this case. Pedo Joe can’t remember more than 2-3 words at a time and he would have to stop and listen, then repeat the words and then stop and listen again. I guess if his handlers want to get rid of him and make him look even more demented, they can try it.
PDJT should carry a cellphone jammer…
or keep watching his wristwatch
Shirley you are not referring to the bombing of Normandy…
FJB won’t have to memorize anything. First question: President FJB, “Is red still your favorite color?”
"Why chocolate chip, Mr. President? Is it because of its unifying symbology?"
What is the air-velocity of an unladen swallow?
Is that an African or English swallow?
His answer will be to ask for clarification as to ice cream flavor "red."
no, it's green for dollars (multi-colored Yen)
He may have an earpiece and we can't rule that out. Brandon will certainly be juiced.
"midsummer’s night’s scream" "mumble in the jungle" if the event mislabeled a debate leaves us with catch phrases as good as this it might be worth it.
Still not a reason to watch a country trying to pretend this spectacle matters. Most will be watching to see Biden make a fool of himself or freeze. The rest will be watching to see if Trump is the bully they think he is. Just 90 minutes of wasted time.
True. My preference would be an event where each side would appoint a representative to cross-examine their opponent for 2 hours under oath on live tv. I would watch every minute of that.
Interesting idea and might be a big improvement. But they will never risk allowing people to see the truth about a candidate.
Alas, like the vast majority of my fantasies it will never happen.
Never give up.
WAR.. worship and resist
never give in..
enough is enough.. take control.. Louisiana is a start
I don’t believe lie detectors, I believe in cross-examination
I like mumble in the jungle!
I laughed in the doctor's office when I read this. And even louder reading the repeat when I'm home and drinking hot coffee.
The fact that a special counsel found FJB incompetent to stand trial for mishandling classified material yet can somehow be President and indeed run for a second term demonstrates the terminal nature of this once great republic. The so called debate is irrelevant.
If the subject is broached, Trump should make Biden defend his claim to competence by making him agree to release the video of his deposition.
Would make for quite a moment at the least.
Brilliant! I hope that someone on Trump’s team lurks here.
I plead to God to open the files
Spot on. The Special Council already told everyone the truth. Yet here we are. What a mess.
I wouldn't count on the moderators to bring it up. I see them working hard to keep the narrative they want. Trump will have to debate 3 people.
Hur's cynicism: He's too incompetent to stand trial, but he good enough for guvment work. Let's let him be POTUS. It'll look so good on his resume or memorial plaque. whichever comes first.
“ But I want to clear up some disinformation. CNN did not — repeat, not — give the questions to the White House in advance. The White House is giving CNN the questions.”
Ding-ding-ding!
Money quote!!
Like letting the fox watch the hen house.
subpoena the emails
The White House is giving CNN the questions—well said.
Wouldn’t that be a hoot!
I am with you on this issue, Don. I haven’t watched a debate since Reagan. Thats the truth. I don’t vote on camera appeal or because someone misspoke. They are a complete waste of my time. If someone is so undecided about a candidate that they need the debates to choose one, they have no idea what matters. The debates are more about showmanship than substance. Trump is winning on ideas and the poor performance of the current regime. Im not going to second guess Trump here but what is to be gained from this event? Biden is losing on his own so why take a chance on inadvertently helping him? There is a major reset happening in politics today. Both parties are at the end of an era of sorts. The Democrats will likely learn nothing from the election results and double down on their radical side. The only people who believe their rhetoric is the DNC. They have been dying for a couple decades now. The Democrats problem is they have become too corrupt and can no longer cover it up. People know when they are being lied to and ignored. The GOP will say, “see, we won because of our ideas”, never admitting that party voters are fed up with their talk tough, do-nothing history. We are going to see big changes in the GOP in the next four years, not by choice but because Trump will force it to happen. Mr McConnell and Mr. Johnson will not be in leadership come 2028. The party is either going to change and start fixing this country or die with the Dem party. The debates will change no ones mind. They will only boost ratings for the dying cable news industry temporarily.
Mikes will be off ? Yes??
Trump should say things to Biden that we won’t hear to confuse him.
“Joe, did you just say chocolate chip?”
“Hey Joe, your zipper’s down”
“Wanna sniff my hair “.
first comment from Trump should be "what is that smell" (pampers)
Ewwww
Followed by - Is there any air freshener back there in the green room?
I’d like to watch, but I don’t pay for tv so. . .
Sad thing is, it will only make it painfully obvious to the knowing and further anger them. The unknowing will never admit their mistakes. Doesn’t matter how bad it gets due to their ridiculous policy. It’s always the other person’s fault. The left never admits defeat. They never concede. Look at the past elections.
If not for the elders correcting the young. . . Truer words were never spoken.
Isn't just the Dems. This election will be about how dissatisfied the voters are with the GOP’s performance as well. Both parties are in trouble and dying due to the results of their actions. Let the rebuilding begin.
https://www.locals.com/vivabarneslaw
is a GREAT source
I predict a “Dave” moment where the drug highball causes a permanent brain freeze on camera. This gives national sympathy to the Democratic Party “replacement “ candidate. For the record an animatronic dummy at Disney World has more life and intelligence than Biden. Trump is Daniel heading into the Den of Lions. He will be fine. FJB
Thinking the same thing except they haven’t switch Kamala with Shillery.
They’ll just replace her like FDR replaced Henry Wallace with Truman.
No biggie.
Cynical Dan here: This debate will start with two words: convicted felon and swiftly move into areas where Trump has the banana republic 'gag' order.
I pray that Trump will emulate his "All In" podcast performance by being relaxed and smoothly return any 'convicted felon' nonsense right back to the Biden family.
Interesting point re: the gag orders. I’d thought about that just the other day. It would be a most clever ploy.
The ”table turn” for that is for Trump is to respond by merely noting, while unable to answer the question directly due to such constraints, at least he has been found to be competent to stand trial at all, “unlike yourself Joe.”
And then, when Biden tries to defend his competency, get him to promise to release his deposition video. Win-win.
That’s good analysis, Suzie. You have a career in politics.
Oops. I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to insult you like that.
Hah!
OHhhh, I love this tactic; call the RNC!!!!
lol. Buxom blond wins the poll.
Yall preverts. Lol
My reasoning was which is the dumbest idea and I chose that because men are from Mars or is it Venus? And Jill would have a hissy fit, lol, she likes complete control. Dr., my eye.
I can’t think of any reason to let Joe Biden debate anybody except to disqualify Joe Biden as a candidate. He can’t even give a prepared speech for more than a few seconds before going off the rails. There’s no way he will be able to go toe to toe extemporaneously against President Trump. I just can’t figure out at this point who the Dems, or how the Dems, can come up with a candidate who people like and overcome all the procedural issues to get them on the ballot. Of course, breaking laws and procedures is not really an obstacle for the psycho Commie party of Hamas and the Bud Light girl. I’m sure there will be mucho subterfuge between now and November.
Yes Don, the nondebate clown shows should be ended. But please, you could have made your point without insulting soccer fans the world over. Soccer matches are scheduled for 90 total minutes and are guaranteed to have more interesting moments than any modern US Presidential debate. It has always been so. Even the vaunted Kennedy-Nixon debate is best remembered for Nixon's ghostlike appearance. (He refused to wear makeup.) *** Sadly, that first televised debate usured in the modern era of electing the most photogenic pols. Substance of thought and character were jettisoned in favor of image. *** Today Americans are being subjected to a "Let's all get excited" moment. Viewer discretion is advised. The entertainment will be presented by indefatigable Trump basher Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, former wife of the CIA Chief of Staff who swore under oath the Hunter Biden computer was Russian disinformation. Those two Dem operatives will entertain viewers with their standard Trump bashing while shielding a drugged up Biden as much as possible. Whoopee! *** I have a more appealing alternative. I'll be watching some new paint dry.
I could have.
Remember also, it was in black and white. JFK had charm and movie star good looks and the Kennedy name. Win win; and the star: Jackie!!!
I’m hoping Biden falls down.
Biden deserves no breaks but this debate will be embarrassing for our country, especially if Biden crashes again.
This whole debacle is embarrassing for our once great country and painful to experience where FJB and whoever is pulling the puppets strings have taken us
You are on target. Sadly, Trump better be very careful tonight and keep the mouth under control. This is Trumps election to lose. This debate is meaningless outside of the chattering class who make money from it. If the country needs more assurance that Biden is no longer in control, then something has is wrong with people and their method of picking a candidate who is best for the country. I just don't watch these charades anymore.
My knowledge of Biden goes back to my days working in DC when he was called "Plugs" then and a joke. I felt Obama was pulling another bad joke on us when he chose him as VP. I am not sure I can watch him more than 3 minutes; his face and his treacherous energy is unacceptable. I am really wondering what Trump has up his sleeve to accept this debacle; maybe a challenge?
As I’ve frequently posted - Everything I need to know about Pedo Joe I learned watching the Clarence Thomas hearings in 1991.
It is so sad to me that our “President” ish will have a tag team match with our President and have two extras on his side leading the way and protecting him. I think debates could be useful but not the ones we have had since 1960. I missed that debate because it must have been past my bedtime. Instead of “journalist” or more aptly said democrats with press credentials asking questions why can the candidates ask questions. That way we can learn a number of things. What the candidates think we the people think is important and how the other candidate answers. It will also give us some idea of how they handle pressure. The debates I have seen since I set my own bed time have been more about the “journalist” than the public.
Wholeheartedly concur.
The whole premise is faulty, as we have a captured press.