Motor Trend ran a story, “What Happens When a Rivian EV Runs Out of Battery Charge?” Well, anyone with a laptop or cellphone knows what happens. You are SOL for a long time, buddy. But the story inadvertently pointed out another trouble with electric cars is the lack of infrastructure to care for them. But just add it to the pile of problems for these vehicles.
Yep, and for every coal plant we shut down China is building 15 more of them. Clearly, there is a part of this country, primarily in the ruling class, that are dumber than the coal they hate so much. Most of us just call them morons.
You must be from Boston. LOL Instead of using turn signals before a turn they use the middle finger after cutting someone off in order to make the turn.
I lived in Boston for 25 years. I loved it, but I would never move back and yes, I have had some officers here make comments on my (lack of)_driving skills.😊
I rode with the pastor of a downtown mission church for a week? Meanest most aggressive drivers the US. I've been though New York City twice, loved driving to downtown Chicago during rush hours, lived near Disneyland with my first wife, babysat Mary's grandkids near LA airport and drove them all over LA during rush hours, worked 2 years days in the mills of Gary and Hammond.
They even wrote a song about "You Drive Like a Nashvillian. but I can't find a copy of the lyrics anywhere. Might have been a one-off by a long past DJ.
Boston has some of the worst drivers I've ever seen. As far as the worst in The United States, I've heard that award would go to Atlanta. I mean what nice thing could you possibly say about a state or even a city that would make a gorilla like Stacy Abrams in charge of anything that requires intelligence. YIKES !!
I disagree. I've been through Atlanta multiple times. Worse than anyplace else but still a ways back from Boston. And before you ask, does anybody remember the Johnny Cash song I'VE BEEN EVERY WHERE BOYS?!
I have never heard of this particular Johnny Cash song nor did I ever say I had ever driven in Atlanta. I drove for UBER/LYFT for about three years making many airport runs. When I asked people about where NOT to drive and Atlanta was the clear cut winner. Yes, Boston sucks, but I lived there and had to deal with it on an every day basis.
This just floors me. 'But there is hope the propaganda falls on deaf ears because “experts say” has become a red flag that what you are about to hear or read belongs on the manure heap.' About being called an "Expert?" Why is it that the ONLY people called "Experts" come from within the government hierarchy? If they knew anything about what they were doing, they wouldn't be working for any government agency. Their only hope of being employed is if one of their relatives or friends get elected and then it is called nepotism. Look at Anthony Fauci, our former "Infectious Disease Expert." Since when does someone who NEVER had a medical client privately or publicly become anything in life, but in government circles, he is called an "expert." I sure as hell wouldn't want someone as useless (.....and stupid, like his boss Biden) performing a Colonoscopy on me.
As far as EV's go, if you can afford one and/or have a fire in one, you could probably equate that with an early trip to HELL and there is NO coming back.
"Expert": we can break that down into two syllables: "Ex", meaning "former", and "Spurt", meaning "liquid drip under pressure". So an "expert" can be defined as a "former drip under pressure".
Oh, the phrase, "Experts say", is akin to the opening phrase, "Once upon a time...", for fairy tales.
Glad to have you take a well-deserved swipe at "the medical expert", Dr Fauci, who loudly proclaimed. "I am the science " Our national megalomaniac who killed and ruined many lives!
Rand Paul is aggressively pursuing charges against Fauci for blatantly lying to Congress (and the American people, many of whom died because of his misinformation). Few are vocally supporting Rand Paul. Where is Congress on this? The evidence is clear -he lied, people died. Even the conservatives don’t care.
Many in the Repub. party are in cahoots with the evil ones. For example, McConnell, all who show up by his side during his press briefings, and many more! Same in the House!
Look at all the politicians, like that bitch Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan or Charlie Baker of Massachusetts, who ordered the "MURDER" of thousands by confining the elderly to nursing homes and not having to face the consequences of their actions (I haven't forgotten the actions of fellow governors in California and New York). For some reason, most of those murders came at the hands of DEMOCRAT politicians, yet not one has been held responsible. What are the RINOS, like Mitt Romney, afraid of? Being 'punished' for doing the job he was elected to do.??
I think they’ve got something on Romney. Early on I did read somewhere that he also (himself, I believe, not just a relative) was on the Burisma Board in Ukraine.
You are missing the point of #2. Politicians DON'T want you to be able to travel. They think they will be able to stop any kind of REAL insurrection which is bound to happen with animals like Biden, Whitmere or Newson even close to the powers that be.
They are not, they are payoffs to donors for our political class in a lot of cases. Take all the solar companies getting huge loans, then filing bankruptcy and the taxpayer is on the hook because oh wait Obama and Biden both made the taxpayer responsible for the loans.
Another good one Mr. Poca Bentley Surber! So much evil is behind EV’s and everything else designed to destroy our beautiful America! Resist, resist, and resist some more! Patriots, keep spreading the truth across our fruited plains! Tell homosexual Obama, Pervert Joe Briben, their minions and the central bankers worldwide to stuff it! We are at least 150,000,000 strong! We can defeat them with God on our side!
The reason is limited useful life. The battery has a 10-year lifespan before needing a replacement at many thousands of dollars. Internal combustion engines (ICE) can run hundreds of thousands of miles with reliable but generally simple services like changing the oil regularly.
ALL "green" "energy" (solar panels, windmills and batteries) are HORRIBLY ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL, from manufacturing to use to disposal!
The environmental (and humanitarian, ie. child labor) problems with manufacturing were discussed in this blog post. The 'use' was only touched upon - both the windmills and solar panels are apparently extremely detrimental to wildlife. In addition to EV fires is that their fires become a HAZMAT scene. And the disposal of all 3 categories of "green" pollute the soil and ground water with all the toxic heavy metals and rare earth minerals which are needed for their manufacture.
It boggles my mind that lefties don't cancel green energy!
But they do what they're told.
Note: Uber lefty Michael Moore of all people MADE A MOVIE "Planet of the Humans" that does blast "clean energy" -
7 fold Amen! Cue the choir! Repeat. Finally. Got that off my chest. Now you guys are supposed to pay me on the back and say, " There. There. Feel better now?
"I like that the first advice was to ask a stranger to run up his electric bill recharging the battery. That’s the backup plan."
If some stranger's car came to a stop at the end of my driveway I'd be far quicker to offer him my can of mower gas than run 60 feet of extension cord for the next few hours.
I have a coworker who commutes with a little, battery-powered BMW, it's cute. He designed and built his own solar power array and storage system that runs his home. We're in Florida and he only has utility power as a backup and convenience. Oh, and he still has his 90s Ford Ranger because he's too sensible to be dependent on that stuff.
Unless you're this guy and I doubt you want to be, drive a gas car.
You just raised a terrifying scenario: When (not "if") there's a hurricane, how are those battery powered vehicles all going to get charged to get EVERYONE out of danger?
Politicians who support this crap are (bought off) morons.
Yep. We don't need a new remade country, we just need a new congress that will produce commonsense decisions. Don't need any more laws, we just need a congress and DOJ that will enforce the ones we have.
Agree, but with a carriage you still need a road. I'll just go with the horse so I can also go off-road. I think Don will also stick with a horse - but it will be his Mustang.
Not mentioned is the fact that lithium and cobalt mines are frequently found in rain forest areas and it requires the demolishing of those forests to get to the minerals. Seem like it wasn’t that long ago that environmentalism was all about the desperate need to save the rain forests. Where did that go?
There you go again, arguing with the federal governments resident think tank, AOC. Just believe what she says, and feel good about yourself. It will help when she demands all your money to save humanity……from her liberal friends stupid mistakes.
Very good Substack, thanks. I appreciate how you laid out the issues succinctly and with compassion for the little guys. EV's are not safe and not environmentally friendly. Electricity still has to be generated!
Every winter, there seems to be a major storm that causes cars to stop on the highway for h hours, sometimes days. With EVs, they will all run out of power. Many of The drivers will freeze to death. And it will take weeks to recharge all of the dead batteries. Makes me wish there really was such a thing as global warming.
Another downside to the electric car is its weight which tears up the roads. There are too many negatives on this pig to make it look good with a simple tube of lipstick. Sorry folks but this idea is going the way of the dodo bird. Americans are just not going to buy these little bomblets and put their children in them. Sooner or later the child is going to yell, "this emperor has no clothes" and the world will finally wake up to reality.
That gas guzzler is the best thing that ever happened to humanity. There is a reason we have the fairy tale about the Emperor and his clothes, this is not the first time in history that people have been sold a bill of goods and it will hardly be the last. It is an expensive lesson but the fact is the truth will out on this one soon because you can't hide these problems. Fires on highways filled with wall to wall traffic should be enough to make us all come to our senses on this fiasco.
Geez - instead of putting a bomb in a vehicle, all a terrorist would need is an EV. Imagine if the IRA had access to EV's back during "the Thrubbles" in the '70's into the '80's.
As a rural volunteer firefighter, nothing scares our department more than an EV fire. Glad our coverage area is not near any 4 lane highways. We don’t have enough water, foam or manpower to fight an EV fire. If we ever have one, we will let it burn out and try to prevent the fire from spreading.
Same here brother hose puller. Exactly. We just had a hybrid catch on fire(much smaller battery) and by the time we got there(within 4 mins) the vehicle was completely flashed over and we couldn't put out the fire. Things got fun when the gas tank started to melt...
....And then you will catch hell from the environmentalists for adding "God only knows" pollutants to the stratosphere by doing nothing. Never mind how many of your fellow firefighters who may die in the process. If you think I am kidding, after the near disaster on the Hudson a few years back, enviromentalists were complaining about how many geese died vs how many people who would have died, had it not been for the exceptional flying skills of the pilot.
The only environmentalists here are the best environmentalists, hunters and fishermen. No bedwetters allowed here. The newer cars have so much plastic and chemicals in them that the fires are about the most toxic we face - EVs wouldn’t change much in that regard.
I am not going to compare stats with an expert (You), but me having a new car is testament to the amount of plastic there is on new cars. You have my sympathies, sir and I promise this: when my parents heard or saw an ambulance or fire truck when we were children, they always said "Please God, not a child." I will include a prayer for you.
We had one in a pretty large city, Indianapolis. It burned for 3 days. Even the recommended hazmat stuff wouldnt put it out and they had just gotten a new hazmat truck. It burned too hot and mostly made its own O2. The fire dept after not succeeding just kept it from spreading.
Who do we thank for that? Surely not Tesla, nor Elon. Maybe it was a good idea for some future time. I'd say we are at least 30 years too soon. (I say this because I just re-watched the moon landing and some other US space-race videos.)
My 2011 Mustang from my cold dead hands. Should’a kept my 2005 model - less electronic junk - but I’ll make due. Bought my last “new” car. I’m out. The new stuff is loaded with electronic garbage that just breaks down.
Amen! Any autos added to this rebel’s inventory are going to be Mustangs 1965-1972 simply because they’re:
A) Very well made
B) Reliable
C) Parts are ubiquitous
+ I always demand manual shift; every car I’ve ever owned has been manual shift. Once again less to go wrong + if your battery dies you get it on an incline & roll it downhill - pop the clutch - & your engine roars to life! When I ordered my last Mustang from BH Ford they looked @ me like I was from the planet Alderaan when I specified manual shift. I responded, “Do I look like some kind of limp-wristed candy a**?” {they didn’t know how to respond to that comment}. When I was full time in rush hour L.A. traffic I could drink coffee, load, fire up & smoke a pipe {tobacco} & shift all @ the same time. ;<)
It’s a breeze man.
I’ve seen/heard since where manual shift is now considered an “anti-theft device”; if true that is indeed a sad commentary on the state of manly affairs.
As to Don's question / concern about "the man" forcing people out of gas-powered engine cars by outlawing their repair or the supply of gas stations etc, that is a big concern of mine.
My hope is that if that does ever happen, then either an underground market will develop to service the market, OR I'll be dead by the time it fully happens!
Or 3rd possibility is that select states (FL. Maybe TX, etc) become 'combustion engine sanctuaries' and will refuse to cave to the leftist lunacy and continue as we currently are.
However, driving out of state would become a no-man's-land roll of the dice!
Don't want to get too far into conspiracy theory mode this early in the morning, but one has to ask why this is being pushed so hard when there isn't infrastructure (or enough electricity from the grid) to run it. My only conclusion is the government wants to limit our travel and ability to move beyond 25 miles from where we live. It is an institutionalized shutdown a la COVID lockdown. Control through limiting resources and access.
I think you’re solidly accurate, that the “leaders” at the top want to limit our mobility.
But the overall multi-faceted fiasco of EV’s just shows the gross incompetence of most liberal endeavors, including nearly any government “program”. Flagrantly idealistic intentions followed by super crappy implementation, and close to zero results— and often even very negative results.
We should not be at all intimidated by these people. We can surely defeat them. About all they are good at is aggressively running their mouths and dominating our communication systems.
The people we’re up against are truly incompetent.
Just musing, but I think all the lying eventually makes them even stupider, because they lose touch with reality and come to believe what they’re saying. So then they are also self-deluded. We can beat these people.
Why are governments pushing the EV and green energy BS. Because that's where all the investments are going. I seem to recall the Xanax addicted Al Gore crying on the nightly TV news about "Why don't people understand how we are trying to HELP them?" People understood all too well what Al Gore was trying to do to them--and help himself financially. Most of Gore's money was in "Enviromental" stocks and losing his shirt in the process. Gore should practice what he preaches, but he won't. His mansion down in Tennessee uses almost as much electricity as the entire city of Nashville.
Reasonable people have understood this BUT government bureaucrats and industry types as well as our Chinese adversaries have different objectives which won't go well for the average American.
The Trouble with battery operated cars is that they are mainly driven by virtue signalling a**holes!
TISI&IGISI!
Who get really nasty when you point out that the electricity for their cars comes from coal and oil.
And don’t even mention the waste stream from EV’s. That really makes them mad. Guess that’s why I always do it.
I love the internet meme: picture of a long coal train labeled EV fuel
Yep, and for every coal plant we shut down China is building 15 more of them. Clearly, there is a part of this country, primarily in the ruling class, that are dumber than the coal they hate so much. Most of us just call them morons.
Thanks for doing the dirty job for me. I don't want to break a nail. LOL
Just giving someone the finger takes care of most problems you will incur while driving.
You must be from Boston. LOL Instead of using turn signals before a turn they use the middle finger after cutting someone off in order to make the turn.
I lived in Boston for 25 years. I loved it, but I would never move back and yes, I have had some officers here make comments on my (lack of)_driving skills.😊
I rode with the pastor of a downtown mission church for a week? Meanest most aggressive drivers the US. I've been though New York City twice, loved driving to downtown Chicago during rush hours, lived near Disneyland with my first wife, babysat Mary's grandkids near LA airport and drove them all over LA during rush hours, worked 2 years days in the mills of Gary and Hammond.
Boston is by far the worst. Not even close.
They even wrote a song about "You Drive Like a Nashvillian. but I can't find a copy of the lyrics anywhere. Might have been a one-off by a long past DJ.
Boston has some of the worst drivers I've ever seen. As far as the worst in The United States, I've heard that award would go to Atlanta. I mean what nice thing could you possibly say about a state or even a city that would make a gorilla like Stacy Abrams in charge of anything that requires intelligence. YIKES !!
I disagree. I've been through Atlanta multiple times. Worse than anyplace else but still a ways back from Boston. And before you ask, does anybody remember the Johnny Cash song I'VE BEEN EVERY WHERE BOYS?!
I have never heard of this particular Johnny Cash song nor did I ever say I had ever driven in Atlanta. I drove for UBER/LYFT for about three years making many airport runs. When I asked people about where NOT to drive and Atlanta was the clear cut winner. Yes, Boston sucks, but I lived there and had to deal with it on an every day basis.
I love that song, and the one he wrote about working in a Cadillac factory taking home a car, one piece at a time. Johnny and June!!
Good one sub. My laugh machine did good with this one.
LOL
Ha! You owe me a computer screen cleaning😂
Drat. I laughed loudly again.
And again.
This just floors me. 'But there is hope the propaganda falls on deaf ears because “experts say” has become a red flag that what you are about to hear or read belongs on the manure heap.' About being called an "Expert?" Why is it that the ONLY people called "Experts" come from within the government hierarchy? If they knew anything about what they were doing, they wouldn't be working for any government agency. Their only hope of being employed is if one of their relatives or friends get elected and then it is called nepotism. Look at Anthony Fauci, our former "Infectious Disease Expert." Since when does someone who NEVER had a medical client privately or publicly become anything in life, but in government circles, he is called an "expert." I sure as hell wouldn't want someone as useless (.....and stupid, like his boss Biden) performing a Colonoscopy on me.
As far as EV's go, if you can afford one and/or have a fire in one, you could probably equate that with an early trip to HELL and there is NO coming back.
"Expert": we can break that down into two syllables: "Ex", meaning "former", and "Spurt", meaning "liquid drip under pressure". So an "expert" can be defined as a "former drip under pressure".
Oh, the phrase, "Experts say", is akin to the opening phrase, "Once upon a time...", for fairy tales.
Glad to have you take a well-deserved swipe at "the medical expert", Dr Fauci, who loudly proclaimed. "I am the science " Our national megalomaniac who killed and ruined many lives!
Rand Paul is aggressively pursuing charges against Fauci for blatantly lying to Congress (and the American people, many of whom died because of his misinformation). Few are vocally supporting Rand Paul. Where is Congress on this? The evidence is clear -he lied, people died. Even the conservatives don’t care.
Many in the Repub. party are in cahoots with the evil ones. For example, McConnell, all who show up by his side during his press briefings, and many more! Same in the House!
Please see my above post.
That's because in the senate, likely the only one is Vance.
Look at all the politicians, like that bitch Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan or Charlie Baker of Massachusetts, who ordered the "MURDER" of thousands by confining the elderly to nursing homes and not having to face the consequences of their actions (I haven't forgotten the actions of fellow governors in California and New York). For some reason, most of those murders came at the hands of DEMOCRAT politicians, yet not one has been held responsible. What are the RINOS, like Mitt Romney, afraid of? Being 'punished' for doing the job he was elected to do.??
I think they’ve got something on Romney. Early on I did read somewhere that he also (himself, I believe, not just a relative) was on the Burisma Board in Ukraine.
Nothing surprises me about Mitt Romney. Thank you, cuz I will add that as one of the many reasons to NOT vote for this asshole.
Think it was a son or nephew. Amazing all that info is gone.
Another confession of shame for me. I reluctantly voted for that turd. And McCain. So sorry, my friends.
Biologically speaking, expert sounds like it's all over. Spurt of luck once, that an expert. sp.
Let's see:
1. what to do when out of battery charge during a drive
2. lack of charging stations available across the country
3. how to re-charge your battery during a power blackout
4. Cobalt mining uses child slave labor and causes fatal lung damage to these children
5. Lithium mining is bad for the environment
6. what to do with all those EV batteries when they are no longer useful? They are environmentally hazardous to dispose of
7. power inefficiency and wastage from plant to battery and from battery to engine
So exactly how are these vehicles an improvement for society?
Eve, if you continue to ask thoughtful, intelligent questions, Greta Thunberg will soon be coming after you (in her private jet no less).
You are missing the point of #2. Politicians DON'T want you to be able to travel. They think they will be able to stop any kind of REAL insurrection which is bound to happen with animals like Biden, Whitmere or Newson even close to the powers that be.
They are not, they are payoffs to donors for our political class in a lot of cases. Take all the solar companies getting huge loans, then filing bankruptcy and the taxpayer is on the hook because oh wait Obama and Biden both made the taxpayer responsible for the loans.
Another good one Mr. Poca Bentley Surber! So much evil is behind EV’s and everything else designed to destroy our beautiful America! Resist, resist, and resist some more! Patriots, keep spreading the truth across our fruited plains! Tell homosexual Obama, Pervert Joe Briben, their minions and the central bankers worldwide to stuff it! We are at least 150,000,000 strong! We can defeat them with God on our side!
“Resist we much… we must… and we will much… about… that… be committed.”
The good old “reverend” never fails to amuse.
I read recently that another issue is that while you can always sell a used gas-powered vehicle, there is almost no market for used EVs.
The reason is limited useful life. The battery has a 10-year lifespan before needing a replacement at many thousands of dollars. Internal combustion engines (ICE) can run hundreds of thousands of miles with reliable but generally simple services like changing the oil regularly.
Racist!!!! Get ready, its the universal liberal response when confronted with common sense.
ALL "green" "energy" (solar panels, windmills and batteries) are HORRIBLY ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL, from manufacturing to use to disposal!
The environmental (and humanitarian, ie. child labor) problems with manufacturing were discussed in this blog post. The 'use' was only touched upon - both the windmills and solar panels are apparently extremely detrimental to wildlife. In addition to EV fires is that their fires become a HAZMAT scene. And the disposal of all 3 categories of "green" pollute the soil and ground water with all the toxic heavy metals and rare earth minerals which are needed for their manufacture.
It boggles my mind that lefties don't cancel green energy!
But they do what they're told.
Note: Uber lefty Michael Moore of all people MADE A MOVIE "Planet of the Humans" that does blast "clean energy" -
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/24/michael-moore-turns-climate-left-film-skewering-gr/
Remember how quickly that movie got "disappeared"? Too much truth! And from a fellow liberal!
7 fold Amen! Cue the choir! Repeat. Finally. Got that off my chest. Now you guys are supposed to pay me on the back and say, " There. There. Feel better now?
Humor them, tell them yes, you feel better. You know you won't, but ... keeping up appearances.
They do it because it makes them feel all yummy inside and requires no brain power…….something in short supply, on their part.
Sometimes he's prophetic. So is James Carville. Makes no difference. They've plugged their and are matching over the edge.
Ears.
"I like that the first advice was to ask a stranger to run up his electric bill recharging the battery. That’s the backup plan."
If some stranger's car came to a stop at the end of my driveway I'd be far quicker to offer him my can of mower gas than run 60 feet of extension cord for the next few hours.
I have a coworker who commutes with a little, battery-powered BMW, it's cute. He designed and built his own solar power array and storage system that runs his home. We're in Florida and he only has utility power as a backup and convenience. Oh, and he still has his 90s Ford Ranger because he's too sensible to be dependent on that stuff.
Unless you're this guy and I doubt you want to be, drive a gas car.
You just raised a terrifying scenario: When (not "if") there's a hurricane, how are those battery powered vehicles all going to get charged to get EVERYONE out of danger?
Politicians who support this crap are (bought off) morons.
Evacuation is a problem and then there's what happens to the cars inevitably left behind.
Lithium does not like salt water.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/hurricane-ian-flood-damage-evs-creating-ticking-time/story?id=91795016
sorry hadnt read to your post yet. I had the same thought, batteries = sea water = really bad
Valid question. But I believe the pols have a term for those people trying to evac. They will be called “casualties”.
And those casualties will be blamed on climate change, not the stupidity of government interference in the marketplace.
Yep. We don't need a new remade country, we just need a new congress that will produce commonsense decisions. Don't need any more laws, we just need a congress and DOJ that will enforce the ones we have.
Here is the response to your scenario from the communists who run your community:
"Tough. Don't drive."
The better question is: Do you know what seawater does to a battery? especially a big battery?
If you run a 60’ extension cord to recharge the vehicle, it will be at least 24 hours, not a few hours.
I’ll go horse and carriage before I go EV.
Agree, but with a carriage you still need a road. I'll just go with the horse so I can also go off-road. I think Don will also stick with a horse - but it will be his Mustang.
Mama used to tell us, "Walking ain't crowded!" when we begged for bus fare.
Not mentioned is the fact that lithium and cobalt mines are frequently found in rain forest areas and it requires the demolishing of those forests to get to the minerals. Seem like it wasn’t that long ago that environmentalism was all about the desperate need to save the rain forests. Where did that go?
There you go again, arguing with the federal governments resident think tank, AOC. Just believe what she says, and feel good about yourself. It will help when she demands all your money to save humanity……from her liberal friends stupid mistakes.
Very good Substack, thanks. I appreciate how you laid out the issues succinctly and with compassion for the little guys. EV's are not safe and not environmentally friendly. Electricity still has to be generated!
Every winter, there seems to be a major storm that causes cars to stop on the highway for h hours, sometimes days. With EVs, they will all run out of power. Many of The drivers will freeze to death. And it will take weeks to recharge all of the dead batteries. Makes me wish there really was such a thing as global warming.
And, if the car stops, they can't get out of it because nothing works.
Another downside to the electric car is its weight which tears up the roads. There are too many negatives on this pig to make it look good with a simple tube of lipstick. Sorry folks but this idea is going the way of the dodo bird. Americans are just not going to buy these little bomblets and put their children in them. Sooner or later the child is going to yell, "this emperor has no clothes" and the world will finally wake up to reality.
That gas guzzler is the best thing that ever happened to humanity. There is a reason we have the fairy tale about the Emperor and his clothes, this is not the first time in history that people have been sold a bill of goods and it will hardly be the last. It is an expensive lesson but the fact is the truth will out on this one soon because you can't hide these problems. Fires on highways filled with wall to wall traffic should be enough to make us all come to our senses on this fiasco.
An accident between 2 electric cars: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JRtBHL_e5cw
Geez - instead of putting a bomb in a vehicle, all a terrorist would need is an EV. Imagine if the IRA had access to EV's back during "the Thrubbles" in the '70's into the '80's.
HOLY CRAP!!
That is terrifying!!!
Can you imagine a 30-car pileup on the interstate as we often see in the news if everyone was driving an EV?
BTW did the drivers in your video make it out alive?
As a rural volunteer firefighter, nothing scares our department more than an EV fire. Glad our coverage area is not near any 4 lane highways. We don’t have enough water, foam or manpower to fight an EV fire. If we ever have one, we will let it burn out and try to prevent the fire from spreading.
Same here brother hose puller. Exactly. We just had a hybrid catch on fire(much smaller battery) and by the time we got there(within 4 mins) the vehicle was completely flashed over and we couldn't put out the fire. Things got fun when the gas tank started to melt...
....And then you will catch hell from the environmentalists for adding "God only knows" pollutants to the stratosphere by doing nothing. Never mind how many of your fellow firefighters who may die in the process. If you think I am kidding, after the near disaster on the Hudson a few years back, enviromentalists were complaining about how many geese died vs how many people who would have died, had it not been for the exceptional flying skills of the pilot.
The only environmentalists here are the best environmentalists, hunters and fishermen. No bedwetters allowed here. The newer cars have so much plastic and chemicals in them that the fires are about the most toxic we face - EVs wouldn’t change much in that regard.
I am not going to compare stats with an expert (You), but me having a new car is testament to the amount of plastic there is on new cars. You have my sympathies, sir and I promise this: when my parents heard or saw an ambulance or fire truck when we were children, they always said "Please God, not a child." I will include a prayer for you.
With us, it was always 'God's speed' and we got out of the way to let them through.
Amen, I remember their squawking. It was worse than the geese.
And due to the lithium, you can’t even make the best of a bad situation by roasting hot dogs on the mess.
*Snort. You owe me more monitor wipes.
We had one in a pretty large city, Indianapolis. It burned for 3 days. Even the recommended hazmat stuff wouldnt put it out and they had just gotten a new hazmat truck. It burned too hot and mostly made its own O2. The fire dept after not succeeding just kept it from spreading.
Yep, that is exactly what I have experienced trying to manage fires by these bastard vehicles.
Guess those things aren’t that smart after all.
Damn scary!
Who do we thank for that? Surely not Tesla, nor Elon. Maybe it was a good idea for some future time. I'd say we are at least 30 years too soon. (I say this because I just re-watched the moon landing and some other US space-race videos.)
My 2011 Mustang from my cold dead hands. Should’a kept my 2005 model - less electronic junk - but I’ll make due. Bought my last “new” car. I’m out. The new stuff is loaded with electronic garbage that just breaks down.
Give me gauges - not screens - or death!!!
Im putting a new engine in mine when it dies.
Amen! Any autos added to this rebel’s inventory are going to be Mustangs 1965-1972 simply because they’re:
A) Very well made
B) Reliable
C) Parts are ubiquitous
+ I always demand manual shift; every car I’ve ever owned has been manual shift. Once again less to go wrong + if your battery dies you get it on an incline & roll it downhill - pop the clutch - & your engine roars to life! When I ordered my last Mustang from BH Ford they looked @ me like I was from the planet Alderaan when I specified manual shift. I responded, “Do I look like some kind of limp-wristed candy a**?” {they didn’t know how to respond to that comment}. When I was full time in rush hour L.A. traffic I could drink coffee, load, fire up & smoke a pipe {tobacco} & shift all @ the same time. ;<)
It’s a breeze man.
I’ve seen/heard since where manual shift is now considered an “anti-theft device”; if true that is indeed a sad commentary on the state of manly affairs.
As to Don's question / concern about "the man" forcing people out of gas-powered engine cars by outlawing their repair or the supply of gas stations etc, that is a big concern of mine.
My hope is that if that does ever happen, then either an underground market will develop to service the market, OR I'll be dead by the time it fully happens!
Or 3rd possibility is that select states (FL. Maybe TX, etc) become 'combustion engine sanctuaries' and will refuse to cave to the leftist lunacy and continue as we currently are.
However, driving out of state would become a no-man's-land roll of the dice!
Don't want to get too far into conspiracy theory mode this early in the morning, but one has to ask why this is being pushed so hard when there isn't infrastructure (or enough electricity from the grid) to run it. My only conclusion is the government wants to limit our travel and ability to move beyond 25 miles from where we live. It is an institutionalized shutdown a la COVID lockdown. Control through limiting resources and access.
I think you’re solidly accurate, that the “leaders” at the top want to limit our mobility.
But the overall multi-faceted fiasco of EV’s just shows the gross incompetence of most liberal endeavors, including nearly any government “program”. Flagrantly idealistic intentions followed by super crappy implementation, and close to zero results— and often even very negative results.
We should not be at all intimidated by these people. We can surely defeat them. About all they are good at is aggressively running their mouths and dominating our communication systems.
The people we’re up against are truly incompetent.
They truly are incompetent but they are masterful liars.
Just musing, but I think all the lying eventually makes them even stupider, because they lose touch with reality and come to believe what they’re saying. So then they are also self-deluded. We can beat these people.
If they're so incompetent, why are they still in charge?
They’re dominating the communication systems so half the country never hears about anything that contradicts their narrative.
Meaning, they do have one major competency, they incessantly run their mouths.
Because they’re good masterful liars
Sec.Granholms pet electric bus company just folded but it is not msm news.
Yeah I saw that on conservative sites. Id say that was entertaining but I think they made her sell her stock about 6 months ago.
Europe is already looking at domestic air travel bans, and a couple of nations are already doing it,
I guess they're killing off too many pilots with the jabs...
Why are governments pushing the EV and green energy BS. Because that's where all the investments are going. I seem to recall the Xanax addicted Al Gore crying on the nightly TV news about "Why don't people understand how we are trying to HELP them?" People understood all too well what Al Gore was trying to do to them--and help himself financially. Most of Gore's money was in "Enviromental" stocks and losing his shirt in the process. Gore should practice what he preaches, but he won't. His mansion down in Tennessee uses almost as much electricity as the entire city of Nashville.
Bingo!
Like regular incandescent lite bulbs? Or cheap & most efficient Freon a/c units? Would never happen. US is a democracy….
You forgot the 5 gallon crapper, er flush commode.
I drill out any new shower head I have to buy so I can get some water pressure through it! My son-in-law recently did the same thing.
Pretty sad when you have to flush 6-8 times when one would have done it before.
It’s all about the refineries. If they shutter them, maximum creativity is required.
They havent built a new refinery in over 30 yrs. Soon they will shutter themselves due to age.
I would add 100% to the title.
Reasonable people have understood this BUT government bureaucrats and industry types as well as our Chinese adversaries have different objectives which won't go well for the average American.