The New York Times story did not say what its editors and their flying monkeys thought it said. The headline said, “A Tiny Number of Shoplifters Commit Thousands of New York City Thefts.” OK, you don’t need a J-school degree to figure out the message sent. Not everyone in NYC is boosting $4,500 Louis Vuitton purses. It is just a few people. Whew. What a relief to know this.
From our mouths to God's ears. Sin has been defined away by our elites even in the churches. Jesus said, "If you love me you will keep my commands." If we love one another we will deal with sin first in ourselves and then in others.
With the loss of retail and increased crime, once great cities like New York and Chicago will have little to offer. Not sure Instacart will make up the difference.
Instacart has to have stores, too! The only reason my mother wanted to go to New York was for their library. She would say she'd take a helicopter and land on the roof to get there! Now the woke librarians league have spoiled that, too. It's a hangout for the homeless not for the learners, not to mentions the trans agenda events.
...could be that no arrest, no charges, no punishment is part of the strategy to move as much retail as possible online. No driving to the store, no cash transactions. Where will the shoplifters work when there are few brick & mortar places for them to raid?
There's a big reason that Whole Foods in San Francisco and Walmarts in Oregon are closing - they can't afford to endlessly loose money or keep their employees & real customers safe
Internet retailers were always crowing about how economic they are compared to brick and mortar stores. They wanted us all living in storeless suburbs so we would become slaves to delivery vehicles. As long as their warehouse fortresses and supply chain are intact – they reasoned – mostly peaceful protests would only help them. I think they are beginning to realize what lawlessness truly is. Hopefully it will drive them to God and not to a tinpot dictator.
I didn't vote in the poll because it's neither. It's the subhuman black culture! Period. Until we take it seriously (IE shoot to kill) it will get much worse.
Democrat city blacks are like pit bulls and Muslims. Not ALL are bad, but when there is a bad incident its almost always them!
And finally, article says "327, nearly a third... over 6,000 arrests" that just tells me the real number is over 1,000 with 10k+ arrested and released. Government DOES have a necessary function. Law and order is #1. Fuck democrats and their lawless cities and their feral constituents.
I would just draw a distinction between lower class black Democrat city ghetto dwellers vs. the enormous black middle class, which is completely the opposite of the black lower class.
In one sense, it not an issue of race, because people of ANY race that have two-parent families, a work ethic, value education and so on generally will become prosperous, productive members of the middle class. But in another sense, it IS a race problem, because Democrats have pumped up dysfunctional lower class ghetto blacks with a completely artificial sense of indignation and entitlement.
When adjusted for two parent households there's basically no difference between blacks and whites when it comes to household income education etc. It's the 75% illegitimacy rate that corrupts their culture, brought to you by the democrats beginning with Johnsons great society
Agree, 75% illegitimacy has been catastrophic. I don’t see how any black woman could ever vote for the Democratic Party. If the Democratic Party had spent even 10% of the time they spent trying to blame racism for the dysfunction of lower class blacks on INSTEAD promoting the need for lower class black men to start becoming responsible fathers and husbands, the black lower class would have shrunk dramatically.
I feel sorry not only for the kids raised in such dysfunction, but also for all the black women whose chances of having a husband are nil. Black women should be furious with the Democratic Party.
And Michelle Obama could have played a role in promoting marriage and fatherhood among black men, but she was SILENT. That fact should be prominently used against her if she runs for President.
Instead of quoting anyone, especially of academia and the media, I want you to think about an unheard of possibility that I came across over the weekend. The article said "Who would Mr. Trump choose as his running mate?" There were the usual media choices and then I read the name 'Kari Lake." I hadn't considered her at the time and then I thought "Could you imagine what the media would do if they had to face Donald Trump, Kari Lake or Kaleigh McEnany on an every day basis?? I would think CNN and MSLSD would go out of business rather than hell the truth and all the trash talking LIUBERAL reporters would resign. Now THAT is something to hope and Pray for.
I also like Larry Elder for Vice President. It would be so good to have a black conservative in everyone’s face for 4 years. And I think he’d probably be a wise president if something happened to Trump.
I also like Larry Elder, but the attempted recall of California Governor Gavin Newsom showed Mr. Elders shortcomings as a politician. Newsom is a terrible Governor, but to be successful as a politician, you need a killer instinct and Mr. Elder does not yet have that. A lot can change in 1.5 years.
Well, I think Larry Elder probably actually Ron the California governor race, but California vote fraud and Dominion voting machines cheated him out if his victory. Elder was doing surprisingly well in polling up til about 10 days before the ejection, and it looked like he seriously was going to pull off a win. But the Marxist Left couldn’t allow that.
I think Elder ran a great campaign, and he is extremely articulate. He’s reasonably aggressive, but I agree with you that in today’s ruthless environment you need a powerful killer instinct. And Kari Lake indeed has that!
Should’ve proofread the above— meant Larry Elder actually “won” not “Ron”, and meant “the election” not “the ejection”. Although if Elder had won it would indeed have been a great “ejection” of Gavin Newson!
YES she does. I will concede your point on a tainted election, but so was 2020. I was born and raised in Sacramento and I have several family member as our there and they keep me well advised in political issues. I have a 50 year Reunion coming up out there and I am not going to go. Why? Because I'd be about the only conservative there. Everyone I went to school with works for the state and .my graduating class has about 1500 people in it. I will go and see family and then I will come back home.
Hmm... I’d say DO go to the reunion—your presence is needed more than ever. The Left Media already is trying to shut off any communication that “goes against the narrative”, and our best way to fight back is that there are still 150 + million of us who are out here in the world and can TALK one-to-one with our fellow citizens to try and red-pill them. So don’t cooperate with the effort to silence us— get out there and interact.
Now, of course it is not easy, and if you try to argue with a Democrat out of anger or disdain for them, you will be wasting your breath.
But if you approach them from a more spiritual perspective, willing to look beneath the surface of their current Democratic views, and realize if they were seeing a broader range of news, they do have a natural intelligence, such that they would begin to wake up. If you approach them with genuine caring for them and some degree of respect, (and maybe some humor would help) you will stand a much better chance of breaking thru their defenses and planting some enlightening ideas here and there.
If all 150 million+ of us STAY ENGAGED with them and keep communicating, that will be what turns this country around.
I could easily take the moral high road, but I feel as if I were wasting breath. Besides I'd be going out there alone and traveling alone stinks. Anyway, it's time to go to sleep as I am keeping my cat awake. If you'd like to carry on this diatribe another time, my email is tonyn331j27@gmail.com
Why does history NEVER show that an African named Anthony Johnson was the father of slavery on this continent? He sued his white neighbors to legalize his claim that he had the right to own another human for life because that man was his slave in Africa. - Virginia 1655.
The trial is part of the legal public record, available to everyone who does the research. It's even documented on the black website The Root. There were no slaves in Virginia prior to Anthony Johnson's lawsuit. Blacks were the first slaveholders and freed blacks owned black slaves up to and including the Civil War. By percentage, more freed blacks owned slaves than white Americans.
When whites put aside morality to give in to black pressure, slavery ensued. Now whites are again pressured by blacks to put aside morality. Nothing good comes of this, either.
I came across that story a couple yrs ago and was flabbergasted. It never gets reported because it is against the victim narrative on why personal responsibility should be paramount. A lot of people died to correct this wrong and they get demonized because giving their life to fix it wasnt enough.
My father grew up dirt poor, my mother not too far ahead of him. Neither would have dared think about shoplifting as a way out. Not my grandparents. My grandfathers worked like dogs to see that their kids would have a better life. Same for my parents. Same for me. That’s how it’s done. Like 4DC said earlier, God help us.
I came from generations of coal miners and dirt farmers. My Grandfather used his WWII GI bill to get an accountant degree so he didnt have to go into the coal mines. And yes, they would give you the shirt off their back but they would never never steal.
My dad joined the Air Force out of high school (he was still under 18) because he couldn't afford college w/o the GI bill. His only other option out of high school was to work in a local factory.
He used to say that he squeezed four years of college into 17 years (while also working a 2nd job to help raise four kids. Then he started his master's degree, which he finished up right after retiring from 23 years in the USAF.
His example is why I'm not afraid of hard work and long hours. It's not just how you make a living, it's how you make a life.
So what they're saying is that if they just pulled 327 people (out of 8 million) off the streets of New York, shoplifting would be reduced to almost nothing?
That's a sad state of affairs.
I love how the "pro-looting" story admits in a back-ass-ward kind of way that this is a problem specific to a single group.
In other news, we were told by the Chicago mayor that youth should not be demonized, after teenagers, mostly of a certain background, went on a looting and destruction spree this weekend. On this he and I agree. The teenagers should not be demonized. The adults who *allowed* these teenagers to run rampant should be demonized.
Without diving deeper into the data, for the sake of argument, let's assume that the majority (if not all) of the retail establishments being looted are the locations of stores like The Gap, Urban Outfitters, Target, Walgreens, CVS, Ross, Kohl's, et al. Not to excuse or condone boosting, but the parent companies of these stores were among the leaders in jumping on the anti-white people, reverse-racism, BLM band wagon. However, the point is that stealing is illegal, even if the "victim" opts not to press charges, so I guess I'm taking advantage of the opportunity to get in a dig at corporate cowardice and duplicity.
"And NYT also argued, 'Retailers have pointed to shoplifting as a drag on profits for decades.'"
I'm sure that was true at one time, and if true still, those parent companies' senior management no longer have a complaint as they all but gave looters the green light when they publicly stated that they would not press charges against those who engaged in mass shoplifting (when I was in retail, eons ago, shoplifting was THE paramount concern).
It's independents, and mom-and-pop establishments that need the law and law enforcement to protect them...not that cops are permitted to do that...
Remember the story of the rabbi who asked what causes theft? The smart student answers greed, the gentle student answers poverty, and the wise fool answers "People who buy stolen goods"
Good morning Mr. Surber, I'm quite sure that your first of many of your mistakes are using the paper of record, NYT. The 327 is the same as an iceberg only see 20%. Also, as another reader noted I too felt this was gonna be about the venerable Chebby 327. Many wouldn't use the NYT to line a birdcage, alone to actually believe any of their printed hallucinations. Written by idiots for idiots. Coming from a life in western Pa. where I grew up, in my very early years sheltered as it was, equality was taught, not equity, there in lies the rub. I'm quite sure that there have always been "five fingered discounts". Yeah I'm guilty, stealing is stealing period. Steal large cause the penalty is the same mentality. Well, 50 of my years have since passed, and there is now NO penalty. No fear just rob to rob, keep it under x number of dollars and yes you are golden, what a great system. I'm pretty sure it's gonna work out fine. As far as the Hough District goes as a very young un, and I'll quote my grandfather here" if you just hang a couple of them this will quit", and yes he wasn't very happy about the first mayor of color in Cleveland either. Kinda hard to believe that sort of thinking didn't skew my views, not alone for the races but everything in general the way I try to lead my daily life. The stats coming out of shitholes such as Chicago, daily killings and shootings, all go unreported by the MSM, kinda sad, BLM really don't matter after all. Not the country I want, but the country I have, guess that explains the record number of gun purchases! Gotta go Bannons on.
Greed, no moral compass , encouraged by Government, Democrats, and the destruction of the family. God help us.
From our mouths to God's ears. Sin has been defined away by our elites even in the churches. Jesus said, "If you love me you will keep my commands." If we love one another we will deal with sin first in ourselves and then in others.
4DC, that about sums it up nicely.
With the loss of retail and increased crime, once great cities like New York and Chicago will have little to offer. Not sure Instacart will make up the difference.
Instacart has to have stores, too! The only reason my mother wanted to go to New York was for their library. She would say she'd take a helicopter and land on the roof to get there! Now the woke librarians league have spoiled that, too. It's a hangout for the homeless not for the learners, not to mentions the trans agenda events.
I hate autocorrect.
I refer to it as auto-incorrect!
...could be that no arrest, no charges, no punishment is part of the strategy to move as much retail as possible online. No driving to the store, no cash transactions. Where will the shoplifters work when there are few brick & mortar places for them to raid?
When there’s nothing to shoplift, because all the shops are gone, then homes and apartments will be bigger targets
There's a big reason that Whole Foods in San Francisco and Walmarts in Oregon are closing - they can't afford to endlessly loose money or keep their employees & real customers safe
The Amazon trucks
Internet retailers were always crowing about how economic they are compared to brick and mortar stores. They wanted us all living in storeless suburbs so we would become slaves to delivery vehicles. As long as their warehouse fortresses and supply chain are intact – they reasoned – mostly peaceful protests would only help them. I think they are beginning to realize what lawlessness truly is. Hopefully it will drive them to God and not to a tinpot dictator.
My $ is on the tin-pot tyrant...
I didn't vote in the poll because it's neither. It's the subhuman black culture! Period. Until we take it seriously (IE shoot to kill) it will get much worse.
Democrat city blacks are like pit bulls and Muslims. Not ALL are bad, but when there is a bad incident its almost always them!
And finally, article says "327, nearly a third... over 6,000 arrests" that just tells me the real number is over 1,000 with 10k+ arrested and released. Government DOES have a necessary function. Law and order is #1. Fuck democrats and their lawless cities and their feral constituents.
I would just draw a distinction between lower class black Democrat city ghetto dwellers vs. the enormous black middle class, which is completely the opposite of the black lower class.
In one sense, it not an issue of race, because people of ANY race that have two-parent families, a work ethic, value education and so on generally will become prosperous, productive members of the middle class. But in another sense, it IS a race problem, because Democrats have pumped up dysfunctional lower class ghetto blacks with a completely artificial sense of indignation and entitlement.
When adjusted for two parent households there's basically no difference between blacks and whites when it comes to household income education etc. It's the 75% illegitimacy rate that corrupts their culture, brought to you by the democrats beginning with Johnsons great society
Agree, 75% illegitimacy has been catastrophic. I don’t see how any black woman could ever vote for the Democratic Party. If the Democratic Party had spent even 10% of the time they spent trying to blame racism for the dysfunction of lower class blacks on INSTEAD promoting the need for lower class black men to start becoming responsible fathers and husbands, the black lower class would have shrunk dramatically.
I feel sorry not only for the kids raised in such dysfunction, but also for all the black women whose chances of having a husband are nil. Black women should be furious with the Democratic Party.
And Michelle Obama could have played a role in promoting marriage and fatherhood among black men, but she was SILENT. That fact should be prominently used against her if she runs for President.
Instead of quoting anyone, especially of academia and the media, I want you to think about an unheard of possibility that I came across over the weekend. The article said "Who would Mr. Trump choose as his running mate?" There were the usual media choices and then I read the name 'Kari Lake." I hadn't considered her at the time and then I thought "Could you imagine what the media would do if they had to face Donald Trump, Kari Lake or Kaleigh McEnany on an every day basis?? I would think CNN and MSLSD would go out of business rather than hell the truth and all the trash talking LIUBERAL reporters would resign. Now THAT is something to hope and Pray for.
I also like Larry Elder for Vice President. It would be so good to have a black conservative in everyone’s face for 4 years. And I think he’d probably be a wise president if something happened to Trump.
I also like Larry Elder, but the attempted recall of California Governor Gavin Newsom showed Mr. Elders shortcomings as a politician. Newsom is a terrible Governor, but to be successful as a politician, you need a killer instinct and Mr. Elder does not yet have that. A lot can change in 1.5 years.
Well, I think Larry Elder probably actually Ron the California governor race, but California vote fraud and Dominion voting machines cheated him out if his victory. Elder was doing surprisingly well in polling up til about 10 days before the ejection, and it looked like he seriously was going to pull off a win. But the Marxist Left couldn’t allow that.
I think Elder ran a great campaign, and he is extremely articulate. He’s reasonably aggressive, but I agree with you that in today’s ruthless environment you need a powerful killer instinct. And Kari Lake indeed has that!
Should’ve proofread the above— meant Larry Elder actually “won” not “Ron”, and meant “the election” not “the ejection”. Although if Elder had won it would indeed have been a great “ejection” of Gavin Newson!
auto incorrect... sometimes it changes perfectly good spelled words but it doesnt like them so changes them. my phone does too.
YES she does. I will concede your point on a tainted election, but so was 2020. I was born and raised in Sacramento and I have several family member as our there and they keep me well advised in political issues. I have a 50 year Reunion coming up out there and I am not going to go. Why? Because I'd be about the only conservative there. Everyone I went to school with works for the state and .my graduating class has about 1500 people in it. I will go and see family and then I will come back home.
Hmm... I’d say DO go to the reunion—your presence is needed more than ever. The Left Media already is trying to shut off any communication that “goes against the narrative”, and our best way to fight back is that there are still 150 + million of us who are out here in the world and can TALK one-to-one with our fellow citizens to try and red-pill them. So don’t cooperate with the effort to silence us— get out there and interact.
Now, of course it is not easy, and if you try to argue with a Democrat out of anger or disdain for them, you will be wasting your breath.
But if you approach them from a more spiritual perspective, willing to look beneath the surface of their current Democratic views, and realize if they were seeing a broader range of news, they do have a natural intelligence, such that they would begin to wake up. If you approach them with genuine caring for them and some degree of respect, (and maybe some humor would help) you will stand a much better chance of breaking thru their defenses and planting some enlightening ideas here and there.
If all 150 million+ of us STAY ENGAGED with them and keep communicating, that will be what turns this country around.
I could easily take the moral high road, but I feel as if I were wasting breath. Besides I'd be going out there alone and traveling alone stinks. Anyway, it's time to go to sleep as I am keeping my cat awake. If you'd like to carry on this diatribe another time, my email is tonyn331j27@gmail.com
Why does history NEVER show that an African named Anthony Johnson was the father of slavery on this continent? He sued his white neighbors to legalize his claim that he had the right to own another human for life because that man was his slave in Africa. - Virginia 1655.
The trial is part of the legal public record, available to everyone who does the research. It's even documented on the black website The Root. There were no slaves in Virginia prior to Anthony Johnson's lawsuit. Blacks were the first slaveholders and freed blacks owned black slaves up to and including the Civil War. By percentage, more freed blacks owned slaves than white Americans.
When whites put aside morality to give in to black pressure, slavery ensued. Now whites are again pressured by blacks to put aside morality. Nothing good comes of this, either.
I came across that story a couple yrs ago and was flabbergasted. It never gets reported because it is against the victim narrative on why personal responsibility should be paramount. A lot of people died to correct this wrong and they get demonized because giving their life to fix it wasnt enough.
My father grew up dirt poor, my mother not too far ahead of him. Neither would have dared think about shoplifting as a way out. Not my grandparents. My grandfathers worked like dogs to see that their kids would have a better life. Same for my parents. Same for me. That’s how it’s done. Like 4DC said earlier, God help us.
I came from generations of coal miners and dirt farmers. My Grandfather used his WWII GI bill to get an accountant degree so he didnt have to go into the coal mines. And yes, they would give you the shirt off their back but they would never never steal.
My dad joined the Air Force out of high school (he was still under 18) because he couldn't afford college w/o the GI bill. His only other option out of high school was to work in a local factory.
He used to say that he squeezed four years of college into 17 years (while also working a 2nd job to help raise four kids. Then he started his master's degree, which he finished up right after retiring from 23 years in the USAF.
His example is why I'm not afraid of hard work and long hours. It's not just how you make a living, it's how you make a life.
Amen
Without God, there are no laws.
And NYT also argued, “Retailers have pointed to shoplifting as a drag on profits for decades.”
Jaw dropping stupidity. Whoever wrote that should be advised that their salary is a drag on the NYT profits, then fired!
Right on the money. The Left destroys everything they touch.
As the citizens escape New York without Snake Pliskin’s help where do the move and what do they vote for? The cycle restarts...
Rats fleeing a sinking ship don't turn into watch dogs.
No one mentioned race, ethnicity, etc in the Chicago rampage a couple of days ago. Just "teens".
So what they're saying is that if they just pulled 327 people (out of 8 million) off the streets of New York, shoplifting would be reduced to almost nothing?
That's a sad state of affairs.
I love how the "pro-looting" story admits in a back-ass-ward kind of way that this is a problem specific to a single group.
In other news, we were told by the Chicago mayor that youth should not be demonized, after teenagers, mostly of a certain background, went on a looting and destruction spree this weekend. On this he and I agree. The teenagers should not be demonized. The adults who *allowed* these teenagers to run rampant should be demonized.
No, it should be both.
There is no question who is to blame. Rat bastard commie DA's elected with Soros money.
Dang, I thought the piece was about the beautiful, 365 hp V8 Chevy motor... Apparently, our feral youth have taken hold.
Boys on my street drive standard. Trucks replaced muscle cars
Standard shift. Great theft protection!
Same. A V8 is a V8 :-D
Amen
Without diving deeper into the data, for the sake of argument, let's assume that the majority (if not all) of the retail establishments being looted are the locations of stores like The Gap, Urban Outfitters, Target, Walgreens, CVS, Ross, Kohl's, et al. Not to excuse or condone boosting, but the parent companies of these stores were among the leaders in jumping on the anti-white people, reverse-racism, BLM band wagon. However, the point is that stealing is illegal, even if the "victim" opts not to press charges, so I guess I'm taking advantage of the opportunity to get in a dig at corporate cowardice and duplicity.
"And NYT also argued, 'Retailers have pointed to shoplifting as a drag on profits for decades.'"
I'm sure that was true at one time, and if true still, those parent companies' senior management no longer have a complaint as they all but gave looters the green light when they publicly stated that they would not press charges against those who engaged in mass shoplifting (when I was in retail, eons ago, shoplifting was THE paramount concern).
It's independents, and mom-and-pop establishments that need the law and law enforcement to protect them...not that cops are permitted to do that...
Remember the story of the rabbi who asked what causes theft? The smart student answers greed, the gentle student answers poverty, and the wise fool answers "People who buy stolen goods"
Good morning Mr. Surber, I'm quite sure that your first of many of your mistakes are using the paper of record, NYT. The 327 is the same as an iceberg only see 20%. Also, as another reader noted I too felt this was gonna be about the venerable Chebby 327. Many wouldn't use the NYT to line a birdcage, alone to actually believe any of their printed hallucinations. Written by idiots for idiots. Coming from a life in western Pa. where I grew up, in my very early years sheltered as it was, equality was taught, not equity, there in lies the rub. I'm quite sure that there have always been "five fingered discounts". Yeah I'm guilty, stealing is stealing period. Steal large cause the penalty is the same mentality. Well, 50 of my years have since passed, and there is now NO penalty. No fear just rob to rob, keep it under x number of dollars and yes you are golden, what a great system. I'm pretty sure it's gonna work out fine. As far as the Hough District goes as a very young un, and I'll quote my grandfather here" if you just hang a couple of them this will quit", and yes he wasn't very happy about the first mayor of color in Cleveland either. Kinda hard to believe that sort of thinking didn't skew my views, not alone for the races but everything in general the way I try to lead my daily life. The stats coming out of shitholes such as Chicago, daily killings and shootings, all go unreported by the MSM, kinda sad, BLM really don't matter after all. Not the country I want, but the country I have, guess that explains the record number of gun purchases! Gotta go Bannons on.