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MLR's avatar

“Just remember, the re-election of The Donald changed America. The assassination of Charlie Kirk will change the world.“

DJT was spared in Butler Pennsylvania to change America, Charlie Kirk was sacrificed to save the world.

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Chuck Goldman's avatar

Let’s remember Cory Comperatore.

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BJ54's avatar

Cory is a hero who protected his family at the cost of his own life. He is not forgotten.

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Liberty Belle's avatar

As did President Trump last week. I was so glad he did that.

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Lawsy0's avatar

Yes. The unintended target. Amen.

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Keith Korman's avatar

I don't think anyone really has a handle, on how deep the anger runs. A zillion man march in London? London?

He was murdered September 10th.

Last Wednesday. That's only FIVE DAYS ago. Not even a full week.

I feel like I've lived 10 lives since September 10th. Even our catamite Rino friends are beating the drum. I can't say how long it will stay like this, but it reminds me of the apocryphal quote attributed to Yamamoto in Tora! Tora! Tora!

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve."

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MLR's avatar

Keith, catamite, that’s a good one !

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Lawsy0's avatar

The dog ate my dictionary, I had to Google it. Thnx,

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Chuck Goldman's avatar

Me too. Can’t wait to use it either!

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Estelle Chisholm's avatar

Is not a catamite one who preys on young boys?

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Grumpy Oldman's avatar

Americans have the attention span of gnats.

What happened to remembering 9/11 before every session of Congress?

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PatriciaFairbank's avatar

And God was in charge both times. One bullet missed, one didn’t. As painful as Charlie’s death is, we won’t realize the full spiritual implication for a long time. We’re only beginning to see the change of hearts that Charlie always embraced.

I watched TPUSA daily on Real America’s Voice. I have a feeling its viewership is about to explode.

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steph_gray's avatar

Agree!

I missed today's - hosted by JD Vance I heard - luckily I can catch up on podcast in a while...

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PatriciaFairbank's avatar

JD and Charlie became good friends. Two young Christian men with, young children and strong wives in common. Charlie introduced him to Don, jr., who in turn championed him to his father. As JD said, with Charlie, his organization and wide base this administration was elected. IMHO it helped that the Democrats were in disarray and chose to go with the faux mixed race narrative. The DNC is still in denial abt Obama’s fall from grace but people weren’t permanently fooled. Once Obama

had been their equivalent of a Charlie but upon leaving office his mask slipped revealing just another power monger demanding a fourth term by any means necessary whether through a bumbling old man, a woman of low intellect or assassination. There sits the core of true evil that demonized Charlie Kirk with non-believers. A 22 y/o man without fully developed mental capacity or life experience swallowed the bait. A man so confused that he paired up romantically with the ultimate lie of another male posing as female. The perfect storm resulting in the killing of Charlie Kirk has come too late though and is having the opposite effect of the one intended. The mask is off, the veil destroyed and millions didn’t like what they saw. Satan and his playmate have been rebuffed. God does work in mysterious ways so the saying goes. Even though we didn’t see it coming, Charlie’s mission was finished and he was called home. Easy to see in hindsight, hard to accept but the world will reap the rewards of Charlie for decades to come. We’re watching the Great Reset ignited. The Charlie spirit burns bright.

All glory to The Master, creator of us all. Amen.

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John Wiles's avatar

Excellent, Don, excellent. The 'mob' has identified themselves. They have unleashed the sleeping giant that is us.

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Jeremy R's avatar

Now this unleashed sleeping giant need to wake up, get up and act up .

Inaction will embolden them. We don't need to kill anyone. We don't need to hurt anyone. We need to be the adult in the room and discipline them.

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John Wiles's avatar

Yes, we definitely need to be the adults. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing," Edmund Burke. Good men standing up, speaking up, refusing to be bullied and refusing to put up with inept BS are all good starts to 'doing something'.

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James Mazzarelli's avatar

Justice is a necessary component of forgiveness, and without justice there can be no peace.

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PatriciaFairbank's avatar

When or IF my 60’s friends who cling to old worn out leftist rhetoric the useful idiots who have attacked me, unfriended, slandered me, for my different POV, ever repent and ASK for forgiveness, then it will be done. Until then they are my enemies. I have no illusions. Their hatred and dirty minds define them.

Poor them.

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Jeremy R's avatar

Don't let them control your life. Forgiving them can be done without needing to trust them. I have a brother who hasn't spoken to me since the 2020 election because I asked him about his vote for governor of Colorado. My brother is critical of homosexuals but a Democrat in Denver.

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donald b welch's avatar

perhaps.

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John Wiles's avatar

I thought I responded to this, but maybe I hit the wrong button. Donald, if you stand up, speak up, and defend those things you think are right, there is no 'maybe' because the 'yes' is in you. The 'maybe' questions how many will awaken. Your own awakening is what counts; yours, mine, and all those who see Charlie Kirk's killing as a turning point for our view of what is and is not acceptable as a whole.

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LuAnn's avatar

Now is the time for all good people to stand and take a stand.

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MartyB's avatar

I wasn’t attentive to Charlie in life, although I knew who he was and generally approved of his work. Turns out the name of his organization was prophetic. Turning Point USA. This feels like it.

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Estelle Chisholm's avatar

I am in the same ballpark here. I knew of Charlie's work from watching Fox News. I admired him for his resolve in speaking to college kids about life, politics, etc. in encouraging them to just talk about why they felt about whatever topic was to be covered. When the news came on that he was shot, I was horrified and ended up in tears. I stayed glued to the TV all day and the next to get all the information possible that was coming through reporters from Fox News. I grieve with the rest of the country and pray for Erica Kirk and her children but know that Charlie is with God.

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William Coulter's avatar

There is a change coming. No one knows how long this change will take but a huge awakening has taken place with Charlie’s cold blooded murder.

Normal folks are now waking up to the fact these leftist Antifa loons are playing for keeps and you better not try to stop them.

I think the normalization of the transvestism movement will come to an end sooner rather than later. It’s more than boys in girls restrooms. It’s their violence toward normalcy and morals that has awakened the mass of the just let me live my life in peace people who predominantly make up this and other countries around the world.

Normal people should and hopefully will stand up for Christian values everywhere.

It’s about time.

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Richard White's avatar

I will no longer permit stupid or ill-informed remarks in my presence to go unchallenged because I don't want to upset anyone. I'm 75, and I have never been the one to call another person out for expressing a ridiculous opinion.

Those days are gone. I don't care, Margaret.

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LuAnn's avatar

Yes, Richard. Margaret, we don't give a damn.

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Valoree Dowell's avatar

Yes yes yes. Do it daily. One at a time. Be fishers of men.

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Lawsy0's avatar

I've got a few years on you, and I totally agree. My birth date was supposed to be the end of December 1941. My mama told the doctor, "I'm not having this baby till the war is over!" Being a rebel, I waited 2 more weeks to join the outside world. Back then, all doctors and nurses that surrounding states could spare were sent to Camp Campbell Kentucky to help the thousands of inductees be certified for the Army. The War to End All Wars. IIRC.

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Ross's avatar
Sep 15Edited

I was born a few days before you on the 10th December, 1941, in NZ. Mum always said the shock of the news hastened my arrival.

I have always attempted to live a life of tolerance. Live and let live.

Increasingly in recent years I have begun challenging foolish and malicious ideas. Always courteously but implacably.

The antifa, BLM, DEI and transgender movements together with the whole Covid tyranny changed everything for me.

Charlie’s assassination has moved what had been a personal thing into something stronger, something like a crusade that I believe is now shared by millions.

We have entered the long anticipated fourth turning.

God bless us all. xx

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Marlan Hoerer's avatar

I pray that you are correct Ross.

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Jeremy R's avatar

Think about what women are like when they have hormonal swings. It can get rough. Anger over trivial things, mood swings.

The gender pretender experiences the same thing because the hormones are foreign to them.

Years ago I was misdiagnosed as adult ADHD and prescribed Ritalin it created mood swings, anger to the point of rage. I never hurt anyone, didn't yell or carry on. I realized something was wrong and got away from it.

I've seen it with friends who were prescribed anti depression meds. Several tried suicide. One succeeded.

These things are playing with fire in a room full of dynamite made worse by doctors who can't think beyond WebMD.

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Cookie McCall's avatar

Lets hope that it's RFK and his team to the rescue to stop this foolishness

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Lawsy0's avatar

I remember in early 1970's we were told that red dye in foods caused ADHD. Husband and I withheld those products from our 2 year old son. He didn't arise and call us bless'ed either.

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Liberty Belle's avatar

Haha. It’s not easy to be a good parent, but you were!

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Lawsy0's avatar

Correcting aberrations is a fool's errand. Old south saying, "You caint haint a haint!" (translation, You can't scare a ghost.)

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Alice Ball's avatar

Millions upon millions. Well done today Don. They’re a soulless lot and they deserve what’s coming. Really Obama started it and Hillary reinforced the hatred of 2016 Trump voters, so for us it has been at least 10 years of them spewing hate & disgust at Trump and at us, and we know their language well. The website supporting the identification of assassination celebrators is Charlie’s Murderers, and that’s just brilliant. My husband, oldest son and daughter are Ole Miss alums, and they booted a woman professor who celebrated it in less than a day, poof, gone. Hotty Toddy! 🇺🇸

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Amy's avatar

Hotty Toddy! We attended the memorial for Charlie at The Circle last night. 500+ in attendance, possibly 700. I really was expecting some kind of protest for that woman because it’s a university town with a white female Democrat mayor and where Soros backed mobs demonstrated for BLM several times. Not the typical Democrat organized chaos with protesters everywhere, no barricades, no armed guards, no screaming, no buses everywhere.

Just people of all ages, singing praises to our great God.

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Alice Ball's avatar

I think they finally understand what FAFO means & even the numerous Oxford liberals aren’t going to protest FOR assassination.

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Alice Ball's avatar

Bravo, Go Rebs💙❤️

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Albert P. Sweeney's avatar

I, like a lot of people, had been listening to Charlie a lot the past few years. His podcast awakened me. His devotion to Christ filled me back up with hope. Enough so that I am rejuvenated in my heart and soul. Enough so that I can face each day knowing that, even though I stumble constantly, GOD is there to help me steady myself and carry on.

This tragedy hurts more than hearing Catherine Limbaugh tell us that Rush had passed. I guess because we all knew Rush’s death was imminent, even though it did not slow him down, and Charlie’s assassination was just that. An assassination, a killing justified in the heads of lunatics who have been taught to hate themselves and their Creator.

I hope to be as strong.

I pray for guidance.

I pray for peace.

I pray for all mankind.

God Bless all of you.

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Gail W's avatar

Rush's passing doesn't hurt as much because Charlie was ONLY 31 years old. 💔💔💔

Nearly A DECADE LESS THAN HALF of Rush's age of 70. 😢

We can all imagine what Charlie WOULD HAVE DONE with all that time, had he been allowed to have it.

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Valoree Dowell's avatar

Christ was 33. Not conflating Charlie with the Messiah, just that great things can be affected by the young.

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TeaPartyGal's avatar

As many have said, Charlie would have been President of the United States in the future, when he was older. Say JD and Rubio between them as President for at least the first 12 years after Trump; then in 2040 Charlie would have been just 46. And 8 years of Charlie would have taken us to 2048, by which time the Democrats would have long ceased to exist.

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PatriciaFairbank's avatar

I agree except JD followed by Marco, 16 years.

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steph_gray's avatar

Well, we can still have that.

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Marlan Hoerer's avatar

And then we witness C.J. Pearson take American Patriots to the next level of a return to our founders dream and creation ,THE U.S of A. !!

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Joe LaGreca's avatar

There are some days that one can't forget. One such day is the day Rush's wife announced is death. I came up to prepare lunch around 11:30 & turned the radio on. I sat down & started eating when the announcer said that Catherine Limbaugh will speak. The food in my mouth got stuck in my throat - will never forget that moment. Same with Charlie - I was on my laptop & saw the news that he had been shot. I saw a post from Glenn Beck where he said his source said that Charlie was still in critical condition but was stabilized. So, I was crushed when I read later that Charlie had died.

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LuAnn's avatar

I normally don't watch videos showing a person's death for obvious reasons. I decided to watch it because I was somehow convinced it would be wrong or wouldn't show anything. When I watched it and saw that Charlie was hit in the neck, I knew immediately the hit was fatal. I gasped and said No. Anyone with a heart and soul was crushed and now we pick up the pieces and go forward peacefully, prayerfully and logically.

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Joe LaGreca's avatar

I found it troubling that a teacher in Toronto showed the clip of Kirk getting shot to his class of 10 & 11 year old students several times while verbally denouncing Kirk & his views. Thankfully the teacher was relieved of their duties.

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steph_gray's avatar

That one was more than troubling.

Glad the teacher was fired, but he she or it next needs to be prosecuted for child abuse.

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LuAnn's avatar

What the f$%k is wrong with that person???

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Marilyn Armstead's avatar

Yes, Y E S … oh so P R A Y E R F U L L Y go forward! “Thy will be done, HEAVENLY FATHER!”

Romans 8:28 … that to which I tight-fist cling!l

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PatriciaFairbank's avatar

I had the TV on RAV with Charlie’s BFF Jack Proviac’s program but was in the kitchen when I heard him announcing ‘Breaking News’ that Charlie had been shot. He was struggling to stay calm. An instant, “Oh no!” followed by thinking he had to be Ok like PDJT in Butler. But not this time. It’s still surreal and so hard to accept.

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Valoree Dowell's avatar

My DIL helped me reorder my prayers: pray for peace in our hearts, pray for peace in our homes, pray for peace in the world. Building blocks.

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Marilyn Armstead's avatar

PEACE by piece!!! (And I do care here, Margaret! 🙏🇺🇸

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NNTX's avatar

I too have been listening to Charlie, and we went to the America Fest hosted by TPUSA last December, in Phoenix. Fantastic experience and a credit to both Charlie Kirk and Turning Point.

What struck both of us (besides the hope and seeing so many young people there) was that SO MANY of the speakers were unapologetically praising God, as Christians mostly (Ben Shapiro is a devout Jew and quite impressive in his own right).

God led me to begin praying for the various alternative conservative media hosts that I listen to last spring. From their shows in the last week seems like God is continuing to uphold them despite their grief at Charlie's assassination. Praise God for answered prayers to sustain all in times of evil and sadness.

May God give solace to Charlie's family and friends and bring many to Him through this terrible tragedy.

Thanks be to Charlie for his faithful witness and courage.

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Suzie's avatar

"They tried to bury us, but they didn't know we were seeds".

- Greek poet

God Bless Charlie Kirk, and the millions that will follow on his path. 🙏♥️🙏

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Marilyn Armstead's avatar

A HALLELUJAH MOMENT … HEAR, HERE …

TIS POWERFUL FOR SUCH TIMES AS THESE …

TIS CLIMATE CHANGE INDEED! …

DIVINE REIGN FROM AWAKENING RAIN

“THY WILL BE DONE, LORD JESUS, THY WILL BE DONE…

AMEN

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Greg's avatar
Sep 15Edited

My sister - a Karen teacher - didn't celebrate CK death, but she did have to attack his work. I asked how many videos she watched versus reading her crazy loon friends memes and lies. Silence. Then I sent her a few of TPUSA videos. Twisted her head. "I'm finding great dissonance between what I believe in my heart of hearts and what is being pushed forth everywhere by people on socials and the media."

That "dissonance" is her brain realizing that she has been wrong all these years.

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Gail W's avatar

"That "dissonance" is her brain realizing that she has been wrong all these years."

"LIED TO", not "WRONG".

As much damage as even your sister might have done as a 'teacher', I'll still extend her grace when she realizes the lies she believed and then re-told to her students.

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Greg's avatar

I've been easier on her than she deserves.

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Gail W's avatar

Probably so. But if she eventually opens her eyes, welcome her onto our side and hope she regrets and takes action to 'Forswear thy foolish ways'.

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TeaPartyGal's avatar

I love that your sister has an opening to receptivity on changing her thought, and that you were there to send her those TPUSA videos. Way to go, Greg.

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LuAnn's avatar

Yes, to that Greg. A lot of that is now happening.

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John Carter's avatar

The State produced the big show for JFK. Its emotional power was palpable.

The people produced the big show for Charlie Kirk. Its intellectual power is transcendent.

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Marlan Hoerer's avatar

Well put J.C. !

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John Carter's avatar

Thanks Marlan. We see things similarly.

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steph_gray's avatar

Excellent.

Grass roots beat Astroturf every time...

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PM's avatar

Left-leaning Hill is sounding the alarm. "For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind,". Calling conservatives Hitler just doesn’t move the needle now. The Trumpster has his mandate: Antifa, BLM, SPLC and all the lunatic-left. The government is no longer funding our enemies, and the dark money.

Very simple to understand the left’ reaction. When they can't win an argument, they hate you and want you dead. The sea change has started. The rats showed their true colors this time, and no rational human wants to be part of the lunatic left. In their twisted world, right of center = far right radicals threatening our 'democracy.'

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Playswithneedles's avatar

Yesterday I heard a pastor speak about Charlie during his sermon and he quoted Denzel Washington who has left his acting career to become a preacher. Denzel said this, maybe not an exact quote but close enough…

People will hate you because your spirit irritates their demons.

So, so true.

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PM's avatar

Denzel was the best choice the left could have made for Prez-"We're all slaves to information. So whatever you feel about the leaders, like this guy's crazy or the other one is sane, you'd better realize you're being manipulated by both sides. Period." He had no interest in being Prez.

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The fact that the government took so much money from the taxpayers to fund the lunatic left NGOs speaks volumes about how overtaxed we are, something Charlie recognized as the reason why the American Dream was so unaffordable for his generation. Perhaps it’s time, during this presidency, for Trump to return to sanity. Abolish the IRS, fund the smaller government through tariffs, and then point their attention to the Fed. We don’t need a central bank, we need to return to gold-backed currency printed by the US Treasury. Since 1913, our quality of life and price of goods have gone in opposite directions. Take the democrats and their looters out of the picture once and for all! Go after the terrorists they created, the education system that corrupts young minds with lies, and the medical community that gets rich off destroying children. Kurt Schlicter in his dystopian novels predicted roving gangs of angry and violent trans kids going after those who mutilated them. We’re not too far from that now.

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PM's avatar

Well done-a blueprint for a return to that shining city on a hill. We've turned confused children into monsters.

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LuAnn's avatar

Yes, many are little monsters.

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LuAnn's avatar

The Western world needs a return to sanity. I was heartened by the rally held by Tommy Robinson on the weekend in London. More of this, please.

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Phil Hawkins's avatar

When the left begins to realize they are losing, they get violent. A couple of days ago Lawrence Person, on his Battleswarm blog, wrote about the shift of the "peace" movement in the '60s to becoming violent Weathermen and Symbionese Liberation Army. A century earlier, Southern Democrats turned to secession and civil war because they began to realize they were losing the argument over slavery. And a few days after Lee's surrender in 1865, Booth assassinated Lincoln--and made things even worse for the South! Lincoln was actually a voice for moderation at the end of the war--he had told his generals, "Let'em up easy." After Booth's stunt, they got Reconstruction from Congress--much harsher than Lincoln had intended.

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Tmitsss's avatar

I voted in the poll for what I want to happen .

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Jeremy R's avatar

Jesus said, take up your cross and follow me. It's time to do that.

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Clay's avatar

Don - I read your daily email every weekday morning. It is the only daily email I receive from someone I don't personally know that I have come to read every day.

Today's message validated this daily routine of mine in every way.

Your writing gives me information I have missed elsewhere, perspective I appreciate, and hope for America. Kinda like Charlie Kirk.

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Richard Lowe's avatar

I know that he apparently never said it, but print the legend. After the attack on Pearl Harbor, Yamamoto was reported to have said "I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." I am quite certain that Mr. Kirk walks with G-d.

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Liberty Belle's avatar

I have enjoyed the hope of heaven since I accepted Jesus’s sacrifice as payment for my sin at the age of seven. Now, with the death of this man who lived and spoke his faith with courage, conviction, and consideration, the reality of heaven is more palpable to me than ever before. Quite certain, indeed. To God be the glory!

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Retirednottired's avatar

I saw a meme with Charlie walking away with Christ, his arm around Charlie’s shoulder. Behind them on the ground was a microphone. Charlie asks: “Do you think someone will pick it up, Lord.” The Lord replies:” Someone will, Charlie, someone will.”

I was moved to tears.

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steph_gray's avatar

Dang is it dusty in here?

(Me too.)

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PM's avatar

Many are quoting him-maybe not on Dec7, but surely: 'Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, the Japanese mastermind of the Pearl Harbor attack, was killed on April 18, 1943, when U.S. P-38 Lightning fighters ambushed and shot down his transport plane over Bougainville Island during Operation Vengeance.

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PM's avatar

PJ MEDIA: We the People were not raised to sit back as our leaders get picked off. Once they are all dead, we will be next. I am not suggesting violence; I am suggesting survival, by any means necessary. The giant is awake again, and he is filled with a terrible resolve. More articles are riffing on the Japanese Admiral and BAMN. This shot was heard around the civilized world. DJT must now become the ex-terminator.

Factoid: We raised a generation that can tell the difference between 13 genders but cannot tell the difference between right and wrong.

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darrell's avatar

Well here goes. I have been watching, listening and reading and nowhere has anyone, that I have seen, mentioned the fact that Charlie was assassinated on the campus of the largest Christian cult in America. LDS is a cult. They deny the deity of our LORD. They say he is a god not The GOD. Satan was waiting in his lair for Charlie.

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Gail W's avatar

Darrell, honestly, who cares? I'm a secular Jew and I don't care.

As long as people believe in decency, morality and a higher spiritual power, quit judging who they pray to.

If you want to play that game, ALL other faiths that came after Judaism are 'sequels'.

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kam's avatar

Agree. But. Judaism is a cobbling of Greek Mythology and elements of Zoroasterism. And much more.

My fear for Jews, including secular Jews, is that the unlimited vengeance and territorial reach of Israel's current leadership is an historical dead end. When reason and discussion (even if it is seemingly endless) gives way to who has more brute force and the lowest of morals, then time inevitably swings back ruining the lives of apparent affiliates.

I greatly admire those Jews, many secular, who demand Israel stop this insanity. The U.S. has blood on its hands, and apparently some are bloody proud of it.

Yet these people claim to be made in the image of and claim to follow a loving God.

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Jeremy R's avatar

You have it ass backwards. The Bible has been proven historically accurate time after time. Zoroaster started about 600BC after nearly all the Jewish Prophets had made their proclamations.

The Greeks only became influential about the same time. They had many gods including a shrine to an unknown god. The Jews have one. Christians know that he is triune.

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tj's avatar

Have you seen all the archaeological finds that are now coming to light? A lot of the recent ones reflect events in the Bible that a lot of people told us were fiction or exaggerations. It is amazing. And REAL.

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Jeremy R's avatar

TJ, Del Tacket and the team at is Genesis History are amazing to watch. There are several great channels that explore the archeological record and the discoveries in the region . Amazing is almost an understatement.

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tj's avatar

Thank you! I will check it out. I have just been seeing blurbs here and there that make it into the internet news sites, It has been wild to see.

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Retirednottired's avatar

The Greek pantheon was the original government buracracy with separate gods controlling different aspects of the world. Like all buracracy, many of them proved incompetent at their jobs.

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Gail W's avatar

Kam, You simply could not be MORE WRONG.

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kam's avatar

We will have to agree to disagree. Good and evil are human. And you get to choose. Most choose Good, or we would not be here.

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Gail W's avatar

We agree that Good and Evil are demonstrated by humans constantly.

I vehemently disagree that Israel purging the EVIL that is HAMAS is in itself Evil. There has never been a more moral or careful military force than the IDF. If you are unaware of that then you are listening to islamo-fascist propagandists.

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darrell's avatar

Gail, I care because words have meaning. There is one way, one faith, and one Triune God. The Israel that claims the old Judaeo tradition are sons of Satan. Christ's words not mine. They rejected him and Jerusalem was destroyed, they were dispersed out and the Church was realized at Pentecost. The Curtain was torn in half supernaturally destroying a separation of the Holy of Holies. The gentile was bought in. The Church is Israel not those folks claiming DNA in the Middle East. I wish them well defending their families from the murdering Hamas but I have my country and my family to worry about. Not my job. The center and basis of our faith is the deity of Christ, so yes it does matter. It matters very much.

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Gail W's avatar

Darrell,

I'm Jewish (secular) so your views, as I understand them, could not be more hateful. I don't think Charlie would agree with your views. Regardless it is MY RIGHT to not agree with them, vehemently. YOU do YOU. I would NEVER tell anyone that THEIR religion is less valuable, true or valid than my religion's heritage.

There is nothing more that I care to discuss on this subject.

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Jeremy R's avatar

The words of the Bible clearly show that GOD is referring to the descendants of Jacob, not those of Ishmael. I don't know why you choose to reject God's love letter, but you are one of his chosen ones. Gentiles are grafted on and not there to replace the Israelites.

John 3:16 makes it clear, GOD so loved the world. The entire world, his creation! GOD created those haters too and He is grieved at their wickedness.

Jesus was addressing the leaders of the church when he called them children of Satan. He also called Peter Satan and told him to get behind him.

GOD dispersed the Jews, not to punish them, but to bless the nations. Too bad Darrell is rejecting that blessing because GOD swore to Abraham," I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you.

Be of good cheer. Jesus paid the price for the sins of the world and you can claim salvation through him.

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darrell's avatar

Well there you go. I'm saying things that hurt your beliefs. That's my right of freedom of speech. Am I correct in my beliefs? Time will tell but in the mean time I not only have the right but it is a requirement of my Maker to speak the truth in love. I have done so.

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Jeremy R's avatar

No. You. Haven't.

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darrell's avatar

May we agree to disagree?

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Gail W's avatar

Hmmm, our definition of ‘love’ is not the same.

Interesting that your ‘maker’ urges ‘speaking (what you think is) the truth.’

Judaism (I’ve been told) actually TURNS AWAY people *three times* who say they want to convert as the observance is so challenging. Jews have over 500 commandments to follow.

Make of that what you will.

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Valoree Dowell's avatar

Enough. I grew up in Utah and know more about that place than you are suggesting. UVU is a college campus, just like the other hundreds where Charlie reached those in need of a different lesson. Finger pointing, blame and conspiracies are exactly what is no longer needed if we humans are called on to reclaim our humanity.

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darrell's avatar

Because Charlie believed in freedom of speech Valoree I must say that in the name of Charlie with passionate love, how dare you say to me "enough". At the end of the day when all arguments have played out the point of contention is the deity of Christ.

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Valoree Dowell's avatar

Darrell, I’m sorry my “enough” felt directed at you personally. My syntax left an inaccurate impression. I was saying “enough!” to the panoply of vitriol, invective and argument being generated so widely at not just the assassination at UVU, but the throat slashing in Charlotte and the execution at Assumption in Minneapolis. And I will say that for me, there is no doubt about the divinity of Christ. We’ll all be better off when we start acting like Him.

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James Mazzarelli's avatar

You be you, boo, but this is not the time. Mormons are some of the most faithful and generous people on earth. We can debate the validity of their faith, but clearly they have produced some very good fruit. Pax Christi

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darrell's avatar

Faithful to whom? Generosity saves no one. Our work is in right believing. I will die to protect a Mormon's right to defend and espouce his beliefs just as I will risk my life to say that if they don't destroy the Book of Mormon and come to the true gospel on bended knee they are doomed for hell. Charlie Kirk would agree with me I am sure.

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James Mazzarelli's avatar

Ok, if you want to double-down on stupid, I'm game. I previously mentioned that the validity of the Mormon faith is debatable, but again, my point was that now is not the time to be denigrating other people of good will. The fact that you believe Charlie would bless your attacks against the Mormons in this moment demonstrates your complete lack of understanding of what Charlie Kirk stood for.

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darrell's avatar

I think we hear differently when people like Charley are debating. I mean that humbly as we are all human and have biases. One of the main points of the left is that there are no absolute truths. That one's moral values are personal and there exist no absolutes. This statement in fact is untrue and that is what Charlie based his life on. I believe that my statements bring honor instead of dishonor to Mr. Kirk's name. Now is the perfect time to shine the light on the ideology of what is driving all this insanity, not just slide in under a bushel while everyone is in morning. Even Christians forget that bringing in and proclaiming truth will cost you persecution. It's not safe for your own person. The world hates what is true. Charlie ran the race and finished. He is in glory now. Do not morn him.

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Lawsy0's avatar

I knew it, but couldn't bring myself out of my own misery to say it.

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