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MLR's avatar

NATO, a group of Lilliputians who can’t wipe their own derrières without the help of Uncle Sam. Compare them to a tiny country of 10 million citizens who can send 200 jet fighters en masse some 1000 miles to help defeat the barbarians. We need more allies and fewer dependents and fewer Jew haters. And don’t forget Turkey who refused to let GWBush invade Iraq via their territory. While we’re at it, how about kicking the UN out of NYC and send them to Yemen!

LM Drew's avatar

AMEN ... out of NYC.

Richard Lowe's avatar

Instead of kicking the UN out, why not just convert it to housing for the refugees? That's certainly in keeping with the spirit of the project.

Valoree Dowell's avatar

Nice compassionate idea, but all that would create is another monument to welfare. Come to Minnesota for the playbook. Turn the UN into a museum “The Hall of Broken Dreams” or “Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda.”

WTPuck's avatar

No! It should be the site of the new, bestest Trump Presidential Library. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Subvet's avatar

Trump Library will be in Florida.

VICKI's avatar

Like Trump it will have towers in major cities, why not NYC

Big Dog 333's avatar

How about making the UN a “grocery store”?

Don Reed's avatar

04/22/26: Best place on earth for black bananas.

mktelephoneman's avatar

too funny, went over many heads (or just eyerolls)

Don Reed's avatar

04/2/26: True. (!)

Richard Lowe's avatar

I think you might have missed my sarcasm. The UN has long outlived its usefulness. Just the same I appreciate your comment, and I weep for what happened in MN.

Grumpy Oldman's avatar

Nah, send those parasitic deadbeats with those serial rapists to Brussels, Belgium and convert the UN building & Plaza into high-end luxury condominiums like Trump wanted to do in the late ‘80’s, early ‘90’s.

Retirednottired's avatar

Just turn the building over to Trump. It will be profitable within a year.

mktelephoneman's avatar

NYC would let it turn into a Caprini Green in Chicago's past

Don Reed's avatar

04/22/26: What, and UPgrade the building?!

John Wiles's avatar

Getting the UN out of the US would be great!!

revmaddog1948's avatar

Again my fellow mental health practitioners. MLR, I am laughing loudly at your comment.

Retirednottired's avatar

Kick them out, yes. Yemen, no. How about Afghanistan?

Don Reed's avatar

04/22/26: “Do not for a moment believe Starmer, Macron, Merz and the rest of the cowards would not open fire on their own people, too.”

I would. They would never dare shoot their Moslem / African / mixed-breeds illegal aliens.

Besides, their rifles would explode, not having been properly cleaned sine 1991, when the Berlin Wall went to Real Estate Heaven.

Catherine Kasparian's avatar

A French town elected a moslem mayor that celebrated by raising a Palestinian flag over city hall. The French will reap what they sow

Sam Prentice's avatar

When France opened a new Disneyland Park and set off fireworks after the opening night, the entire French Army surrendered en masse.

revmaddog1948's avatar

I'm glad the front window is closed. Sam I ROARED with laughter.

Cookie McCall's avatar

and here on our very own shores, NYC which has chosen a Muslim mayor and Virginia who in all their wisdom has chosen to gerrymander their districts to eliminate all the republicans - allegedly only utill 2030

Tom's avatar

Not only the French town, Dearborn MI has a muslim mayor who recently told a born American citizen and resident of his town that said resident was not welcome in Dearborn city council meetings because he disagreed with said muslim mayor. Unspoken, but undoubtedly meant, was that you're not muslim and we're running this place now.

FWD's avatar

have seen that video, sir...

grew up in (west) Dearborn from the early 60s until having moved away to downriver area and then selling my parents' house and moving mom to an assisted living facility (2012 timeframe?).

this has been a gradual process that started in the 50s and that community kept to themselves until things began to accelerate in the 80s/90s and of course really took off in this new century.

we left MI two years ago and it looks like we escaped just in time... (originally thought we had only gotten away from big ugly gretch, but the damage is everywhere there, now). they are spreading like a wildfire disease, and this must all be eradicated from our country or we will be europe before we know it.

LM Drew's avatar

"... spreading like a ... disease.

Robert Rivera's avatar

FWD, my wife’s Aunt lived in Redford/Livonia by Inkster & Chicago Ave. She passed away in 2016. We still pass by her home when we visit Chicago. St Robert Bellarmine is now a mosque. What a world.

FWD's avatar

Thank you for sharing this, Robert. Know Inkster Road very well and also Chicago Ave., having passed by thousands of times... Worked in Livonia for a number of years and have been through Redford countless times. We lived on the west of Telegraph, south of Cherry Hill, right next to Telegraph...

It's so sad to hear that the church is now a mosque :-(

Indeed, "what a world."

Robert Rivera's avatar

FWD, we lived in the northern Chicago suburbs then and I always enjoyed visiting my wife’s aunt. I’d bring my tools to do repairs for her & we would take her to Meijer’s & Farmer Jack’s for groceries and the Ram’s Horn & DeLuca’s for lunch/dinner. She passed in 2016 @ age 101. We live in NC now but will still stop at DeLuca’s.

FWD's avatar

Robert, you're a good soul, sir!! So wonderful to hear how much you and your wife cared about her. Meijer's is still going strong, but Farmer Jack's is no longer, sorry to say. Yes, many Ram's Horn restaurants around and can see the one you likely went to in my head... DeLuca's!!! WOW! Yes, know there very well, but had only been just a few times.

101!! She did very well and was surely helped by the love and attention from you folks :-D

LM Drew's avatar

A-holes and bullies.

Joseph Kaplan's avatar

There’s a town in nj that’s renamed itself Palestine

FWD's avatar

let us not forget that east one in Ohio that was poisoned and left to die by the demented pedophile previously squatting in our house.

LM Drew's avatar

stupidity in action

Liberty Belle's avatar

So very, very sad. But the same will happen here if people don’t wake up. People are so clueless. Just remembered the video where people were asked if they preferred Muslims or Christians. Very few said Christians — and those were men, not women. 🙄 this happened in Florida!

LuAnn's avatar

But France also elected a regional mayor that took down the EU flag. It's a small start.

BlasterJack's avatar

NATO will henceforth be shorthand for Nations Against Trump’s Omnipresence

Amy's avatar

Excellent! 👍🏻

Michael Davis's avatar

Also No Available Testosterone Organization...

Robert Brusca's avatar

or Never Available To Oblige.

Suzie's avatar

Think about it: Europe, who had lived through TWO world wars, and countless historical internecine conflicts, since 1945 chose NOT to maintain a strong military defense of almost any kind, for any of their respective countries. I mean seriously, what kind of mentality is that for a country’s leadership? To deliberately NOT maintain a viable military and defense for your own country? And they now have barely any military to speak of, no planes, no ships, no tanks, nothing, nada, zip!

And when they provoked Russia into Ukraine did they even for a minute stop to contemplate the risk to their own countries such an adventure would pose? Apparently not. Let the US do all the heavy lifting.

That abdication of duty is on every Prime Minister, President and later EU commissioner for the last 80+ years. And part of the blame rests also on many American presidents since then, as well, for enabling such shocking neglect.

In addition to their almost total reliance on the US to come to their aid if the need ever arose, it appears their fallback position was just to go for appeasement if things ever got rocky for them, to the point where they even denied the US use of their airspace, and our own military bases when we were literally actively involved in saving their asses from potential annihilation.

How’s this all going to work out in the geopolitical sphere of things? Not well, I fear.

LuAnn's avatar

Europe chose comfort in the form of government programs and pensions after the Second World War. In England for example, Labor's Clement Attlee was elected over Churchill after the war because people were tired of bad times. Then Europe's leaders decided they hated their countries so much that they let in millions of Muslim invaders. Self-inflicted. It's civilizational suicide.

John Carter's avatar

The concept of cultural traditions in countries like Germany, France, Italy, Sweden and England thriving and sharing nationalist values with the US has shifted beneath our feet. It is small comfort to watch opening and closing ceremonies in the Olympics knowing the extent to which those very cultures have been taken over. The new Brave New World seems close at hand, and that little rowboat with the trio of feckless leaders is not the leadership we need.

Jim Johnson's avatar

why do so many people stay on welfare? free shit goes a long way in turning you into a noncontributor to society/the world.

Wim de Vriend's avatar

How did NATO "provoke" Russia into Ukraine?

Suzie's avatar

By dangling NATO membership in front of it, which they knew darn well was a red line for Putin for years.

Wim de Vriend's avatar

Given that Putin's "little green men" occupied Crimea back in 2014, it should have been obvious then that the rest of Ukraine would be next, and "dangling" NATO membership was just a pretext for Putin the Empire-Builder.

TeaPartyGal's avatar

There are probably better answers to that question, but I'll never forget Kamala Harris going to Ukraine and announcing that Ukraine was part of NATO. Which it is not, of course. She was just totally ignorant.

Though I'm sure that did not provoke Russia into Ukraine. Putin knew well that Kamala was an idiot and he just dismissed her comment, inflammatory as it was.

Brian LeMay's avatar

Horizontal's problem isn't just ignorance ; she's a Dim . They lie continually .

WTPuck's avatar

I thought Joe Biden's brain encouraged a "small incursion."

Brian LeMay's avatar

Labs for developing biological warfare agents ; as many as 52 depending on source .

Arpad Hrunta's avatar

After World War II, the purpose of the multilateral organizations was to prevent wars (UN) and to defend Western Europe (NATO) from the Soviet Union. The UN has been around for 80 years and has not doing a very good job stopping wars. NATO has been around for 77 years, but the Soviet Union has been gone the last 35 of those years. It appears that NATO decided to dismantle all its armed forces once the Soviets were gone and use the money for "social programs". The US could just pick up the tab.

The US should just leave the UN and start immediately charging them rent for their NYC buildings. Hopefully the UN would then move someplace more in line with their politics, like Gaza, North Korea, or Brussels, as others have said. Then the UN HQ could be converted to better use.

The US should also begin decoupling itself from NATO, starting by removing American troops from NATO countries that won't let us use our bases and moving them to friendly NATO countries.

So I'd start by removing all American troops from Germany and relocating them to Poland. Then remove all American troops from the UK and relocated them to Czechia and Slovakia. Take our troops in Spain and relocate them to Hungary, if they are interested.

After that, with any luck, good NATO ally Portugal would invade and conquer bad NATO member Spain. And so forth...

MartyB's avatar

NATO once served a purpose. That’s in the past. PDJT recognizes that. The USA is starting to see it too.

And while on the subject, anyone hear from the UN lately? It was never more than an interesting idea whose time never came.

Jim Nelson's avatar

Regarding the UN, the adjective "feckless" should precede any mention of this worthless and corrupt organization. Example: The feckless UN convened today to condemn the U.S. and Israel for saving the world once again.

Marlene Swann's avatar

I did it - again! I love it when I pick the majority vote in the poll because it makes me feel like I understand what is going on - when the truth is, I have no clue!

Playswithneedles's avatar

I chose the Vatican because I want the pope to be forced to put his money (and the Vatican has tons of it) where his mouth is.

Kevin C.'s avatar

Leo is the Neville Chamberlain of Popes.

Sam Prentice's avatar

Nah, I really want to see how many divisions the Pope can bring to the alliance. He sure brings a great deal of hot air.

dts3204's avatar

Remember the current pope is part of the Illinois Combine, after all he is from Chiraq home of the old outfit.

Robert Brusca's avatar

great music..like "oh when the saints, go marchin' in...Oh when the saints go marchin' in... and you can always reach the pope on your cell phone! just dial: et-cum-spiri 2, 2, oh...

Douglas Baringer's avatar

Me too! I thought it was the most absurd answer, but guess what.

Joseph Kaplan's avatar

That’s why I chose it

dancingtime's avatar

I read the article in my email, pick my choice in the poll, which then takes me to Substack where I quickly scroll to find whether I picked the popular one....however, I do understand what is going on....or, at least, I think that I do.

Joe LaGreca's avatar

The poll is conceptually different every day. Some days, like today, folks here will go for the most ridiculous choice - which is what I voted for.

Jeremy R's avatar

What's ridiculous about the Vatican? The catholic church has a vast population especially across Latin American countries.

Imagine the Pope calling for an army as was done by Pope Urban II in 1095. Then seeing Venezuelan drug gangs rushing to Ukraine to fight Russia.

tzed's avatar

For years we’ve been told how all these countries hate us. I’ve always felt if you wanted to see how much they really hated us, we should pull all our troops out of those countries. The minute we do that they’ll be begging us to come back.

Jeremy R's avatar

For the economic impact alone.

Steve (recovering lawyer)'s avatar

Europe in general was emasculated by two horrendous mechanized wars during the Twentieth Century (or perhaps more accurately, a single conflict that was briefly interrupted for one generation, as Dr. Hanson maintains). I mean this literally; the male populations of England, France, Germany, the Baltic States and to a lesser extent, even Greece and Italy were either killed off outright or wounded such that they were rendered incapable of asserting real leadership. Compare American casualties, as terrible as they were, to those on the European continent. Moreover, the infrastructure, including roads, bridges, railroads, buildings both residential and industrial were simply bombed into rubble. On the other hand, although the USSR suffered even more deaths and incapacitations, it had sufficient reserves (in no small part because the USA sent over billions of tons of hardware, guns, tanks and airplanes) to maintain a viable military and because of its communist expansionist philosophy, it posed a threat that only the USA could thwart, hence NATO. The political situation gradually changed and when the USSR fell apart, the need for NATO ended. However, there were entrenched interests, identified by Eisenhower as the "military-industrial complex" that wished to maintain the status quo ante and did so. That has now also been altered, but not eliminated by global circumstances; there is still a need to keep a strong military because, although the identities of America's adversaries has significantly changed, America is still the subject of enemy action. However, Europe remains emasculated and it should come as no surprise that its leadership has no stomach for a fight. Western Europe has been utterly feminized, and is now being raped (both literally and figuratively) by masses of hostile foreigners whose only goal is to steal everything from the natives and appropriate it all for themselves. Trump knows this. That is why he is doing everything possible to prevent this from happening on our shores. He also knows that, after suffering under feckless and at times overtly hostile leadership, America itself is in danger of falling prey to the same maladies that afflict Western Europe. Hence, Make America Great Again is no mere slogan; it is a necessary corrective to the globohomo cabal that has infested the nation and must be expunged in order for traditional America to survive.

Big Dog 333's avatar

Globohomo Cabal! I’ll use that one,

Jake's avatar

Trying hard to say something intelligent in response to Mr Surber's article. Two things: The Trumpster wants NATO to increase their military/defense spending and secondly to not rely on America as their hammer all the time. They have to take care of themselves FIRST. However, there are current events ongoing that will change everything in the near future.

The battle lab in Ukraine is exposing the future of warfare just as tanks and aircraft portended a change in warfare after WWI. Cheap drone warfare and AI analysis and targeting will replace much of our current military structure in the next ten years. Tanks, artillery and lumbering ships will fade into the history books. The Trumpster wants billions for our military to become the world leader in the future battle space. Eventually organizations like NATO/UN will have run their course and fall to the wayside. Smaller regional organizations with common defense interests will take their place. It's already happening and the Trumpster is trying to form a new North American Alliance for economic support and defense. Our age group has always lived in interesting times but now we're living in astonishing time......

WTPuck's avatar

I still think we need all the tanks, ships, and artillery as backup for when the grid goes down and the battle moves to the ground. The energy and communications infrastructure is always the first target of an attacking or occupying force. Plus, keeping all of that in good repair could fool adversaries into thinking we aren't focusing on the cutting edge technologies that future warfare will be based on.

Jake's avatar

Russia is losing their tanks by the hundreds. They're losing their ships while Ukraine doesn't even have a navy. I still think they will be phased out or morphed into something else. You can buy thousands of drones for the cost of one tank. I'm an old combat engineer. I can think of numerous applications of this new technology which are better than what we had in my 40 year career. But, you may be right. Time will tell.

WTPuck's avatar

I like to keep my options open. Is that just another phrase for "indecisive"?

Shoveltusker's avatar

Israel is what happens when a nation believes in itself and devotes itself, above all else, to its survival. Adversity has made them vigilant and powerful.

The UK is what happens when a nation loses its way and elects feckless leaders. Adversity has been ignored, with defense from external enemies left up to daddy Uncle Sam. Now they have an incurable internal disease; they imported their own case of metastatic cancer.

How does the mighty wave of the British Empire dissolve into this puddle of lukewarm piss in less than 100 years? Is it because they lost all their real men in the two world wars?

dancingtime's avatar

I had texted my long time friend in FL some years ago about the rising anti-Jew movement taking place....I would read the comments on many many articles from all over the world. It was very clear at the time that, once again, the anti-Jew movement was gaining steam.

Her parents, Russian Jews, fled Russia on foot in the WWII era....on foot....staying in camps in the woods...with gypsies who were also fleeing....

She asked how I knew that far back when I reminded her about 9 months ago....I read what people who post anonymously say online....they speak here things that they would never say in person....And "influencers" bless what they say so that they can say and act in public what they did not have the guts to do before.

Of the seven deadly sins, envy is the worst, imho....I believe that that is the root of the Jew hatred.

Adorable Deplorable's avatar

Yes, Europeans are that kind of infantile with zero skin in the game. It is beyond embarrassing. It is as pathetic as their "leadership" is.

James Mead's avatar

Mr. S brought the fire and facts with him this morning.

Amazing how they look down their noses at us in public.

But don't you think the German schnitzel would like to celebrate a Xmas fair without being attacked by a Muzzie?

NNTX's avatar

Maybe. He might consider it an event for the plebs in his country. HIs mien is one of disdain for anyone not in his club. Not a charismatic, nor wise, “leader"

Denton Salle's avatar

And the sad thing is, as we learned from the Jan 6th witchhunts, our government will too.

dancingtime's avatar

Well...the human animal is the human animal....Left unchecked, they return to their natural uncivilized state....As always, problems are created by too many elites....they have no means to survive on their own and so they spend their time creating problems....

Sam Prentice's avatar

They don't know how to manage their own lives so they feel they must try and manage everyone else's.

Suzie's avatar

When your sole modus operandi is power, as is the entire raison de’tre of the Left, and particularly in a purportedly democratic country, you must fear the people more than any external enemy. Hence their outsized interest in clamping down on freedoms and rights, lest the people get to uppity and decide to remove you from power.

“Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

~ Lord Acton

dancingtime's avatar

There’s some truth to that….old adages like “Doctor, heal thyself.” or the shoemaker’s shoeless children….

They are control freaks…everyone wants to be the alpha dog…

mktelephoneman's avatar

good old song you brought to mind "I'll be damned if you'll rule mine"

old '70s protest songs have special place in my heart

Sam Prentice's avatar

"He can't even run his own life, I'll be damned if he'll run mine!"

Sam Prentice's avatar

Congress will never allow Trump to officially sever our NATO alliance, but he can choose to just operate as if they no longer exist. And his successor(s) can continue to ignore them. And I agree also that we should forcefully remove the UN from our soil. Time for that piece of ground to start providing revenue for Mamdani - I understand he needs it big league.

Jim Johnson's avatar

as the clock ticks, I start to ask myself what happens "A.T." (After Trump). It is going to be easy for a successor to back peddle.

Richard Luthmann's avatar

At some point, alliances stop being partnerships and start looking like liabilities. If NATO can’t show up when it counts—when real stakes are on the table—then what exactly is it? A logo? A memory? NATO was built for a different era, and pretending otherwise doesn’t change reality. Donald Trump isn’t wrong to reassess. You don’t carry dead weight in a moment that demands action. Loyalty runs both ways. If allies hesitate, hedge, or stall when it matters most, then the calculus changes. And once that shift happens, it doesn’t quietly reverse—it resets the entire relationship.