No such thing as 'an old lady'. A lovely term for an older woman is "grande dame," which conveys elegance, wisdom, and respect. It’s a classy way to honor her presence without focusing on age. H/T Grok.
Isn't the usual tune "Lady of Spain" or it was in Cleveland aka polkaville back in the day. Yes, I dated a cute guy who bought his "cordeen" to the house. The parents were mystified, we weren't from Cleveland originally so it was a novelty for sure.
How should "WE" settle the Trump-Musk feud? We should do nothing. They'll work it out themselves.
Jefferson and Adams: Founding Frenemies: 'The 1800 election still stands as one of the nastiest in history. Jefferson’s supporters accused Adams of having a “hideous hermaphroditical character,” while Adams’ camp called Jefferson “a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow.” '
I’ve come to the conclusion that this “feud” is just a big joke between the two of them to see how hard they can yank the enemedia’s chain. Their use of two of the enemedia’s biggest gotchas, the Epstein File and the Nazi Salute are what convinced me.
Elon is autistic, as were many of the great ones. Sometimes, they lose control of their emotions, I would too, if DJT threatened to take my goodies away. He's had 38 billion so far, lots on the EV's from hell. His estranged dad said he'll cool off.
Two top notch trolls, type A personality, showing off for the masses. Congratulations, you're both assholes (which is well known anyway). I found the whole episode, while distasteful, wholey unsurprising, and fairly amusing in light of the obvious joy from the left. A man doesn't get where these men are by being the nicest guy in the room. Who is surprised that neither plays nice with others all the time? Trump is fairly forgiving and has been around the block way more than Elon. This too shall pass.
🎯Some might call it Kabuki theater. The lunatic left can't decide which one to hate the most. Some, not I, might say it's P**** envy, cause theirs are bigger.
Thanks, Don, for the PROPER editing of the descriptions in item 27. “Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the Maryland man [SALVADORAN ILLEGAL ALIEN] whose erroneous deportation to El Salvador became a protracted battle..." "Mr. Garcia" can now look forward to PERMANENT residency in the US, at one of our Big Beautiful Supermax prisons.
This has never been about the man—it's about his constitutional rights & the rights of all. Full statement: Van Hollen Statement on Return of Kilmar Abrego ...
Gotta give 'em props for the ability to turn on a dime.
I'm no lawyer, so I don't know how to make laws say things they were never meant to say, but here's my take on KAG:
1) No foreign person has the right to be present in the USA. To foreigners it's a privilege -- one that can be granted, denied, modified, or revoked at the sole discretion of the person or entity having such authority. If the State Department decides that a foreigner must leave, what are the grounds for appeal? It's a privilege, not a right.
The 14th Amendment says, in pertinent part, "no person . . . shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law . . ."
So, deporting KAG, or anyone else, does not kill them or rob from them, and they do not have "liberty" -- the right -- to be present in the USA, so there is simply no due process issue in the first place.
Agree with your logic as the roadblocks make me angry, however, the Constitution does give people who have illegally snuck into our country the right to a hearing to assess their case for being here.
The left exploits every loophole possible. In this case, rapists and murders are shepherded into our country as enemies of state and must get a court hearing - great delay and added cost - to be kicked out.
They don't deserve anything more than tight handcuffs and a ride to the border or back to their country of origin.
It is the 14th Amendment, specifically section 2 of the 14th amendment - the equal protection clause.
Caveat: I am not an attorney so other opinions are invited to also answer this question.
One part of the equal protection clause refers to CITIZENS which our fellow illegals are NOT, however the next clause simply mentions all PEOPLE. The clause says they have a right to equal protection under the law which means a hearing.
There are exceptions to enforcing a hearing for all people, but I suggest you use an AI search tool to seek those details.
"One single object . . .[will merit] the endless gratitude of the society: that of restraining the judges from usurping legislation."
"Laws are made for men of ordinary understanding and should, therefore, be construed by the ordinary rules of common sense. Their meaning is not to be sought for in metaphysical subtleties which may make anything mean everything or nothing at pleasure."
"On every question of construction carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
“A judiciary independent of a king or executive alone, is a good thing; but independence of the will of the nation is a solecism, at least in a republican government."
"At the establishment of our constitutions, the judiciary bodies were supposed to be the most helpless and harmless members of the government. Experience, however, soon showed in what way they were to become the most dangerous; that the insufficiency of the means provided for their removal gave them a freehold and irresponsibility in office; that their decisions, seeming to concern individual suitors only, pass silent and unheeded by the public at large; that these decisions, nevertheless, become law by precedent, sapping, by little and little, the foundations of the constitution, and working its change by construction, before any one has perceived that that invisible and helpless worm has been busily employed in consuming its substance. In truth, man is not made to be trusted for life, if secured against all liability to account."
Alexander Hamilton:
"It will be of little avail to the people, that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man, who knows what the law is to-day, can guess what it will be to-morrow."
Why are people literally getting away with murder and other hideous crimes in this country to the detriment of my and your safety???? So I should worry about the Arbrego dude....NO
It's in Section 1. Section 2 has to do with representation. Here's the pertinent language:
“. . . nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
The act of detaining any foreign person, and deporting said person does not violate due process, for reasons that I think are apparent. Equal protection simply means, to me, that no person – citizen, legal resident, or illegal alien – can with impunity be robbed, beaten, or abused in any way.
Deportation is not abuse.
[I thought I had posted this reply, but I don't see it in the thread, so please pardon me if this is redundundant.]
Is there case law at a meaningful level that supports this view or are we waiting for it to occur in this administration’s term? If it hasn’t been tested, we have good examples to provide to get a clear interpretation.
It is odd that Elon seems to have been admitted to the Black Eye Club like former new members from years ago: Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, John Roberts, and George W Bush. There were many others - all in positions of high power and influence. Search won't reveal any substantive links about it so we'll just leave it as an unfinished sentence in the Elon-Trump separation.
#3 I'm with you, Don. One of my favorite Rules For Life s has always been, "Play the accordion, go to jail." Now not so much. #5. Long time racial discrimination advocate U of Michigan, is now engaging in another form of anti-American action, terrorism. Give it the Harvard treatment times 5. Don't tell me the institution didn't know what was going on. #9 Are we to be shocked that Donna Brazile, reliable Dem media mouthpiece, gay advocate, former DNC chair, etc., advocates for a child molester? She remains the ideal symbol of the Dem Party. #17 All German politicians are delusional and/or Marxist. It has been so since Kaiser Wilhelm II. Okay, he was, too. #19. This is Robert's way of saying, "See, these ladies aren't really what your lying eyes say they are." #22. Anyone believing or repeating any politician's sentence containing "ten years" should be in a mental facility. #24. California is a state in which people have no history of using public transportation. The exceptions are within LA, SF, Oakland and San Jose. All of those systems lose millions a year. Voters approved a plan they were told would cost $8 billion and pay for itself. The two stated goals: Connect; LA to Vegas (270 miles by road.) Connect LA to San Francisco (382 miles by road.) Achievements after 15 years: $70 billion funneled into union & bureaucratic coffers. Massive amounts of farmland and housing taken and destroyed, often without compensation. More thousands of acres rendered valueless by bans on development because they lie within the planned development zone. A grand total of 55 miles of track built. With its first station 35 miles into the desert outside of LA and its planned Las Vegas terminal also in the distant desert outside of Vegas, the system has been called the Train to Nowhere since the project route was revealed. Fear not. Newsom says the system can be finished if federal taxpayers cough up just another $100 billion.
re: General Sir John McColl, KCB, CBE, DSO, KStJ. And I hear he's a BMF, besides.
re: Myron Floren. Does anybody know what those four hundred buttons under the Left hand are for? And how do you find the right one when you can't see them? Enquiring minds want to know.
re: Tesla crashes and kills somebody. Your point well-taken. In the not-too-distant future, self-driving cars, with instantaneous reflexes - and soon the ability to communicate with nearby cars - will be so good that insurance rates will reflect the percent of time the car self-drives. More is cheaper.
re: item 28 - the Dow. Perfect example of the Warren Buffett principle: the passive investor beats the Fancy Managers 80% of the time, and over time nearly 100% - and without paying them money that could have itself compounded. And you cannot time the market; if you are out of it four critical days in a decade, your returns drop by half. Learned that forty years ago, as a young man.
Now, if I'd just learned about marrying Western women forty years ago, my returns would have tripled. What you don't have, doesn't compound ....
re: disband the SWAT teams. The militarization of American police is a disgrace. Take, for example, Bryan Malinowski, the executive director of the Bill and Hillary Clinton National Airport in Little Rock. ATF was serving a warrant on him for allegedly selling/trading guns without a dealer's license. When they burst in, guns at the ready, he exchanged gunfire and was killed. Maybe if they'd knocked on the door and identified themselves, that wouldn't have happened. Just a thought.
Addendum: just looked it up. Not only bass notes, but chords, including major, minor, seventh, dim. Like a guitar, where you use both hands, only more complicated - plus you have to squeeze the damned thing. Clearly I wasn't giving accordion players enough respect. Wish I'd studied music theory at least a little; there's a helluva lot more to it than I thought.
It's true and fun to watch them manipulate it all. Go to You Tube and watch...Frankie Yankovic was the polka king in Cleveland. I love tango and often they still use accordion. If you looked at the subject on YouTube you saw Dick Contino, Myron Floren, etc etc many famous players, Different styles of playing and of music.
Item 1. She showered with him in praise
Poca-Mans favorite PUNching baggage.
She woulda made a good hospice caregiver. Three showers a week, baby.
Dang it. I didn't see this and just added something similar.
Congrats, Vince. You're top first, and I am basking in your fame. Be back on Friday, June 13th-my high holy day.
Aw shucks!
Thx
Just being my usual goofball self.
😂😂😂👍👍😂
🎯😉
I took it as meaning he's always been a mental midget, and a short one at that.
Item 3. Don when I hear the Overture I want to charge DNC HQ with a pitchfork.
So do I
That's exactly the reaction Rossini wanted when he wrote that piece. Brilliant. Genius that arches over centuries just like the story of William Tell
It was the last of his 39 operas. He could not top it and he retired.
When you go to heaven, you get a harp, when you go to hell,
you get an accordion. Gary Larsen, ‘The FarSide’..
Your loss, marbucks-A fiery horse with the speed of light, a cloud of dust and a hearty Hi-Yo Silver! ... Days of Yesteryear"-https://youtu.be/7slXEO4I59g?list=RD7slXEO4I59g
😂 Made my day!
No such thing as 'an old lady'. A lovely term for an older woman is "grande dame," which conveys elegance, wisdom, and respect. It’s a classy way to honor her presence without focusing on age. H/T Grok.
We. the unwashed, only remember "Hi-yo Silver!"
They say the definition of an intellect is someone who hears the Overture and does NOT think of the Lone Ranger.
I think that might be the definition of someone without a soul.
Nobody ever thinks of Tonto. . .
He moved to Canada 😂
I resent that, sir. I made it all the way through the 4th grade. We didn't have AI to help us.
The Overture on an accordion. I could probably find it on YouTube, but not sure I want to.
https://youtu.be/7slXEO4I59g?list=RD7slXEO4I59g
Isn't the usual tune "Lady of Spain" or it was in Cleveland aka polkaville back in the day. Yes, I dated a cute guy who bought his "cordeen" to the house. The parents were mystified, we weren't from Cleveland originally so it was a novelty for sure.
☺️ Visions of Myron Floren.
(And who says I’m an old lady?)
I think when it comes to the Trump/Musk feud I'm inclined to sit back and see where this is headed. The reality seems a little ...off.
Most of us mature folks aren't shocked at much anymore but Musk going rogue was a huge surprise.
How should "WE" settle the Trump-Musk feud? We should do nothing. They'll work it out themselves.
Jefferson and Adams: Founding Frenemies: 'The 1800 election still stands as one of the nastiest in history. Jefferson’s supporters accused Adams of having a “hideous hermaphroditical character,” while Adams’ camp called Jefferson “a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow.” '
https://www.history.com/articles/jefferson-adams-founding-frenemies
I’ve come to the conclusion that this “feud” is just a big joke between the two of them to see how hard they can yank the enemedia’s chain. Their use of two of the enemedia’s biggest gotchas, the Epstein File and the Nazi Salute are what convinced me.
They are both showmen, and nothing would surprise me.
Elon is autistic, as were many of the great ones. Sometimes, they lose control of their emotions, I would too, if DJT threatened to take my goodies away. He's had 38 billion so far, lots on the EV's from hell. His estranged dad said he'll cool off.
Plays, that's our take too
Elon is autistic; sometimes their emotions get out of control. Cut the guy some slack.
Two top notch trolls, type A personality, showing off for the masses. Congratulations, you're both assholes (which is well known anyway). I found the whole episode, while distasteful, wholey unsurprising, and fairly amusing in light of the obvious joy from the left. A man doesn't get where these men are by being the nicest guy in the room. Who is surprised that neither plays nice with others all the time? Trump is fairly forgiving and has been around the block way more than Elon. This too shall pass.
🎯Some might call it Kabuki theater. The lunatic left can't decide which one to hate the most. Some, not I, might say it's P**** envy, cause theirs are bigger.
Pure wisdom
Thx 😊
Item 4. Are these the same geniuses that cut off all of a frog’s legs then told it to jump?
When the frog didn’t move they concluded…it was deaf.
To be fair if you take pictures of a billion stars it takes a while to go through the photo album
Science!!
🤣
Thanks, Don, for the PROPER editing of the descriptions in item 27. “Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the Maryland man [SALVADORAN ILLEGAL ALIEN] whose erroneous deportation to El Salvador became a protracted battle..." "Mr. Garcia" can now look forward to PERMANENT residency in the US, at one of our Big Beautiful Supermax prisons.
This has never been about the man—it's about his constitutional rights & the rights of all. Full statement: Van Hollen Statement on Return of Kilmar Abrego ...
Gotta give 'em props for the ability to turn on a dime.
Aided by a "free press" that seems to hate America, too.
He can now look forward to "3 Hots and a Cot."
He'll likely find out what it's like to be a victim.
My preference would be to send him back to the cozy Salvadorean prison where he knows people.
They do know how to "handle" criminal gang members!
Item 27
I'm no lawyer, so I don't know how to make laws say things they were never meant to say, but here's my take on KAG:
1) No foreign person has the right to be present in the USA. To foreigners it's a privilege -- one that can be granted, denied, modified, or revoked at the sole discretion of the person or entity having such authority. If the State Department decides that a foreigner must leave, what are the grounds for appeal? It's a privilege, not a right.
The 14th Amendment says, in pertinent part, "no person . . . shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law . . ."
So, deporting KAG, or anyone else, does not kill them or rob from them, and they do not have "liberty" -- the right -- to be present in the USA, so there is simply no due process issue in the first place.
Agree with your logic as the roadblocks make me angry, however, the Constitution does give people who have illegally snuck into our country the right to a hearing to assess their case for being here.
The left exploits every loophole possible. In this case, rapists and murders are shepherded into our country as enemies of state and must get a court hearing - great delay and added cost - to be kicked out.
They don't deserve anything more than tight handcuffs and a ride to the border or back to their country of origin.
Can you show me the article in the Constitution which creates this right to a hearing? I'm sure I don't know where it is.
Sorry for the delay - busy Saturday!
It is the 14th Amendment, specifically section 2 of the 14th amendment - the equal protection clause.
Caveat: I am not an attorney so other opinions are invited to also answer this question.
One part of the equal protection clause refers to CITIZENS which our fellow illegals are NOT, however the next clause simply mentions all PEOPLE. The clause says they have a right to equal protection under the law which means a hearing.
There are exceptions to enforcing a hearing for all people, but I suggest you use an AI search tool to seek those details.
Here's an AI link that may help:
https://www.google.com/search?q=equal+clause+protection+14th+amendment&rlz=1C1VDKB_enUS1080US1080&oq=equal+clause&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCAgCEAAYFhgeMgcIABAAGIAEMgkIARBFGDkYgAQyCAgCEAAYFhgeMggIAxAAGBYYHjIICAQQABgWGB4yCAgFEAAYFhgeMggIBhAAGBYYHjIICAcQABgWGB4yCAgIEAAYFhgeMggICRAAGBYYHtIBCTcyNTZqMGoxNagCCLACAfEFr_77OxFXcNDxBa_--zsRV3DQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Thomas Jefferson:
"One single object . . .[will merit] the endless gratitude of the society: that of restraining the judges from usurping legislation."
"Laws are made for men of ordinary understanding and should, therefore, be construed by the ordinary rules of common sense. Their meaning is not to be sought for in metaphysical subtleties which may make anything mean everything or nothing at pleasure."
"On every question of construction carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
“A judiciary independent of a king or executive alone, is a good thing; but independence of the will of the nation is a solecism, at least in a republican government."
"At the establishment of our constitutions, the judiciary bodies were supposed to be the most helpless and harmless members of the government. Experience, however, soon showed in what way they were to become the most dangerous; that the insufficiency of the means provided for their removal gave them a freehold and irresponsibility in office; that their decisions, seeming to concern individual suitors only, pass silent and unheeded by the public at large; that these decisions, nevertheless, become law by precedent, sapping, by little and little, the foundations of the constitution, and working its change by construction, before any one has perceived that that invisible and helpless worm has been busily employed in consuming its substance. In truth, man is not made to be trusted for life, if secured against all liability to account."
Alexander Hamilton:
"It will be of little avail to the people, that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man, who knows what the law is to-day, can guess what it will be to-morrow."
If only we could see that in today's judicial servants.
Congress could do much to repair that wound in our operational mode.
Have a great rest of your weekend.
Why are people literally getting away with murder and other hideous crimes in this country to the detriment of my and your safety???? So I should worry about the Arbrego dude....NO
It's in Section 1. Section 2 has to do with representation. Here's the pertinent language:
“. . . nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
The act of detaining any foreign person, and deporting said person does not violate due process, for reasons that I think are apparent. Equal protection simply means, to me, that no person – citizen, legal resident, or illegal alien – can with impunity be robbed, beaten, or abused in any way.
Deportation is not abuse.
[I thought I had posted this reply, but I don't see it in the thread, so please pardon me if this is redundundant.]
Is there case law at a meaningful level that supports this view or are we waiting for it to occur in this administration’s term? If it hasn’t been tested, we have good examples to provide to get a clear interpretation.
That last sentence says it all. Bye bye
Item 5: Two would-be terrorists who fit the mold.
Item 9: They strip Harvey Milk’s name off a Navy ship - so what? Name a ferry after him.
How 'bout a tug boat?
Better a caboose - he liked those.
did someone say fairy?
Now that Abrego Garcia is back in a maximum security U.S. prison, send Van Hollen the bill.
Make him his roommate
We’ll see just how tough Venezuelan fat-boy wife beater is in prison . . . If he lasts a year alive.
Item 2. Next thing you know dems will oppose illegal immigration.
"How should we settle the Trump-Musk feud?"
Ignore it because nobody cares at this point. I just hope it accomplished what it was supposed to accomplish.
Both men are amazing in different ways and I hope both continue with great success.
It is odd that Elon seems to have been admitted to the Black Eye Club like former new members from years ago: Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, John Roberts, and George W Bush. There were many others - all in positions of high power and influence. Search won't reveal any substantive links about it so we'll just leave it as an unfinished sentence in the Elon-Trump separation.
Doesn’t seem to have legs except with my politically naive neighbor.
Item 6. The deputy should have broke his kneecaps. That way he won’t be able to take the girls trophy away
Item 5. Talk about ordering take out Chinese???
Item 22. Elon is acting like an obnoxious spoiled brat. Karoline Leavitt and Pam Bondi should take turns spanking him on the Whitehouse lawn.
He had a come apart as they say in Mississippi.
#3 I'm with you, Don. One of my favorite Rules For Life s has always been, "Play the accordion, go to jail." Now not so much. #5. Long time racial discrimination advocate U of Michigan, is now engaging in another form of anti-American action, terrorism. Give it the Harvard treatment times 5. Don't tell me the institution didn't know what was going on. #9 Are we to be shocked that Donna Brazile, reliable Dem media mouthpiece, gay advocate, former DNC chair, etc., advocates for a child molester? She remains the ideal symbol of the Dem Party. #17 All German politicians are delusional and/or Marxist. It has been so since Kaiser Wilhelm II. Okay, he was, too. #19. This is Robert's way of saying, "See, these ladies aren't really what your lying eyes say they are." #22. Anyone believing or repeating any politician's sentence containing "ten years" should be in a mental facility. #24. California is a state in which people have no history of using public transportation. The exceptions are within LA, SF, Oakland and San Jose. All of those systems lose millions a year. Voters approved a plan they were told would cost $8 billion and pay for itself. The two stated goals: Connect; LA to Vegas (270 miles by road.) Connect LA to San Francisco (382 miles by road.) Achievements after 15 years: $70 billion funneled into union & bureaucratic coffers. Massive amounts of farmland and housing taken and destroyed, often without compensation. More thousands of acres rendered valueless by bans on development because they lie within the planned development zone. A grand total of 55 miles of track built. With its first station 35 miles into the desert outside of LA and its planned Las Vegas terminal also in the distant desert outside of Vegas, the system has been called the Train to Nowhere since the project route was revealed. Fear not. Newsom says the system can be finished if federal taxpayers cough up just another $100 billion.
The Train to Nowhere alone should have kept Dims out of office forever. Sadly the voters are just La, La, La La Ti Da.
re: General Sir John McColl, KCB, CBE, DSO, KStJ. And I hear he's a BMF, besides.
re: Myron Floren. Does anybody know what those four hundred buttons under the Left hand are for? And how do you find the right one when you can't see them? Enquiring minds want to know.
re: Tesla crashes and kills somebody. Your point well-taken. In the not-too-distant future, self-driving cars, with instantaneous reflexes - and soon the ability to communicate with nearby cars - will be so good that insurance rates will reflect the percent of time the car self-drives. More is cheaper.
re: item 28 - the Dow. Perfect example of the Warren Buffett principle: the passive investor beats the Fancy Managers 80% of the time, and over time nearly 100% - and without paying them money that could have itself compounded. And you cannot time the market; if you are out of it four critical days in a decade, your returns drop by half. Learned that forty years ago, as a young man.
Now, if I'd just learned about marrying Western women forty years ago, my returns would have tripled. What you don't have, doesn't compound ....
re: disband the SWAT teams. The militarization of American police is a disgrace. Take, for example, Bryan Malinowski, the executive director of the Bill and Hillary Clinton National Airport in Little Rock. ATF was serving a warrant on him for allegedly selling/trading guns without a dealer's license. When they burst in, guns at the ready, he exchanged gunfire and was killed. Maybe if they'd knocked on the door and identified themselves, that wouldn't have happened. Just a thought.
Left buttons are just like the left hand on the piano ....
They're not hands; they're buttons. What are they for?
Who said they were hands, lol?. I just said they are LIKE the left hands on the piano and you play the buttons to get the bass sounds WITH your hands.
That makes more sense. They're bass keys. Thanks.
Addendum: just looked it up. Not only bass notes, but chords, including major, minor, seventh, dim. Like a guitar, where you use both hands, only more complicated - plus you have to squeeze the damned thing. Clearly I wasn't giving accordion players enough respect. Wish I'd studied music theory at least a little; there's a helluva lot more to it than I thought.
It's true and fun to watch them manipulate it all. Go to You Tube and watch...Frankie Yankovic was the polka king in Cleveland. I love tango and often they still use accordion. If you looked at the subject on YouTube you saw Dick Contino, Myron Floren, etc etc many famous players, Different styles of playing and of music.