CBS has been lying to us since at least 1968 when Walter Cronkite reported that America had lost the Tet Offensive. And the lying has continued unabated. 60 Minutes has been a Leftist mouthpiece on the order of NPR with the likes of Leslie Stahl telling DJT that he was wrong about Obama spying on him and cutting Kamala’s word salad from her appearance. New management of CBS is in reality a breath of fresh air.
…or Leslie Stahl lying to Trump about Hunter’s laptop “it can’t be verified.” Because YOU WOULDN’T VERIFY IT YOU DOLT!!! The woman is a dishonest tool in the pay of the “progressive” left. And let’s not forget Dan “What’s the frequency Ken?” Blather - he of the anchor chair for how long? Trying to ambush George W on the eve of an election with fake, made up documents which were easily verified as forgeries. He - & his skank producer - paid for that one with their jobs thankfully.
Amen! I bristle whenever I hear or read about Cronkite. That SOB led the charge for the NVA. A cancer on America was all the "news reporters" of the day were and still are. WC was the epitome of opinion reportage disguised as fact. No facts necessary.
The worst part was, Cronkite was worshipped as the grandfatherly sage who knew it all. I remember seeing him greeting the laity from his golf cart, kind of like the Pope in the Popemobile.
Grandfatherly my hind guarters! He was just an old goat that thought he knew better than the rest of us. He was a major factor in confusing young men at that time.
Let's not forget Dan "fake but accurate" Rather. He and his producer created a false report about George W Bush's National Guard service. The fonts in the report were not in use during GWB's service years (typewriters used only courier). He and the producer were fired for the fake news report.
You could get typewriters with other fonts, what you couldn't get was text compression. With a typewriter, it was the same spacing whether an i or an M.
But I will add this. I have a distinct recollection of Cronkite a the Khe Sanh air base, a smoking C-130 in the background, telling us that General Giap decided who gets in and who gets out. The irony of that statement was apparently totally lost on him.
Thank you. I just read up on the point about him and the Tet Offensive. A critical example of how media sways/persuades public thought. (Of course, Orwell got there first.)
CBS, in same similar vein - as DC City Council Chair Mendelsohn instructions to MPD use of 'Taking Property w/o Right' aka 'Theft' to cook its crime statistics; Is 'looking' at Stripper Anchors and they categorize share of new audience as 'Voyeurs', t/b distinguished from the (abby)normal 'Viewers'.....
I’m going to go “off topic”. I just read how Stephen Colbert “gave a blistering rebuke” to Kimmel’s firing as well as that unabomer looking old gasbag Letterman, crying about Freedom of Speech.
What these assholes just don’t get is yes, you have Freedom of Speech but you do not have Freedom from Consequences.
F.A.F.O. is working out very well.
May all of you have a wonderful weekend and may GOD Bless America.
Kimmel, Colbert, Letterman et al will all be relegated to the dustbin of history, while Charlie Kirk’s words will be played over and over and over for generations. The truth always rings louder and longer.
It’s going to be a tough road to come back from for CBS. 60 Minutes used to be a must watch on Sunday Night. I haven’t watched it in 20 plus years. Antenna TV just makes me scream and cuss at the TV. What was it the Russian’s used to say about their news? They knew they are lying so they ignored them but American’s believe their media. None of the networks are worth my time when I can get the truth almost anywhere else.
The two major propaganda outlets in the old Soviet Union were "Pravda" and "Isvestia." "Pravda" translates roughly to "truth" or "justice" in Russian. "Isvestia" translates to "the news." Russians knew that there was no "Pravda/truth" in "Isvestia/the news." The sooner we understand and accept this, the more likely it will be that we actually understand what's going on in the world.
Ah yes, I remember now that the Dutch communist party's newspaper was called "De Waarheid" -- The Truth. It survived until 1991 thanks to its record as an illegal "resistance" paper during the WWII occupation by Hitler. Also to its credit, it had condemned the 1939 "Ribbentrop pact" between Stalin and Hitler. But of course soon after the war its following shrank.
60 Minutes was NEVER Must Watch Television, especially that racist gasbag Bernard Shaw who was responsible for an American patrol being slaughtered when he embedded himself with enemy Viet Cong/NVA troops.
I was gonna write something intelligently snarky (as is my wont) but you girls and boys have already stolen my best lines😊.
It sincerely saddens and bothers me to think that Walter Conkrite, ‘The Face and Voice’ of unadulterated Straight News was so insidious in his delivery. Back in the day, if my Parents said he was legit, he was legit! Not only was it ‘who knew’ it was ‘who thought’… I hate the left and everything they stand for!
I would have voted for the strippers but then realized someone would generate a story about Trump having had sex with one or more of them 40 years ago before the stripper was born. That wouldn’t stop the slime stream media of running non stop with the allegation and somehow it would be connected to Jeffrey Epstein as well.
So I picked objectivity just to keep it simple.
My wife likes the ABC nightly “news” and hates it when I point out the falsehoods in many of the stories. The host-Muir-reminds me of the too slick for his own good neighbor I lived next to for many years. He wound up in prison for embezzlement.
“ Weiss' launch of The Free Press in 2021 was nearly pitch-perfect. It played into the backlash against the social progress movement of the previous year that presaged Trump's return to office.”
TRANSLATION:
Weiss’s launch of The Free Press in 2021 was nearly pitch-perfect. [It offered news and stories that reflected an entirely different perspective of current affairs, news and opinion in the ongoing cultural wars which were creating chaos with their nonstop, lies and disinformation they uniformly pushed through all the their monopolized Leftist propagandized media organs, thus helping on the effort to awaken and galvanize the Right and usher Trump back into office.]
The launch of The Free Press may have been picture perfect, but as it started to grow, she primarily hired former New York Times reporters and it just turned into NYT lite. More power to her on the timing, but she reverted to type pretty quickly.
Hmmm…David Ellison is talking real money to Bari Weiss; the valuation of her FreePress is somewhere north of $100M. Maybe after Trump causes a fire sale at the Old Grey Lady, she can pick it up for a song and start a real journal in its place. Women are great at remodeling! And revenge….
Survey answer - Objectivity. Easy choice. All the 'old' newscasters mentioned did one thing - they told you what happened. You were expected as a rational person, with some moral upbringing, to be able to hear the story and interpret it for yourselves, i.e, wow, that was a 'good' thing, or wow, that was a 'bad' thing. Then somwhere along the line, we started hearing Presidential State of the Union speeches on TV, followed by talking heads who told us what the President had said. Say what? I didn't need an interpreter, and if you did, you shouldn't have been voting.
I will always remember in the movie, "The Devil's Advocate", Al Pacino, as the Devil, saying to Keanu Reeves, "Never let 'em see you coming." There is the war with bombs and guns, and the war of attrition - wear them down with little cuts, small disruptions, petty arguments - we have been fighting the 'attrition war' for a long time now. I think Charlie Kirk's murder has a lot more people than me understanding that the pendulum has gone as far left as possible, and as it swings back to the right, swiftly, many people will come to know the real power in this country, and it isn't the liberals. It's the conservative, educated, morally based, bulk of Americans today. It's all the people who are NOT rioting, NOT blowing things up, NOT wearing vaginas on their head and NOT screaming like the idiots who do. It is every true American, who wants to build our country up, not tear it down. It is us.
Have not watched any A.M. or P.M. from the msm in years , ever since Dan Blather ran the hit on .G.W.B. and when proved a lie stood behind the story. It certainly would be novel and edgy to have news without bias imho. Nice explanation of the trade publishing the numbers so thank you for the brain labor capped with a mail-in poll. As a retog TGIF anyway.
The continued failure of CBS has caused the free market to offer alternatives to their product/service of the classic news show. When markets accept new solutions and technology (digital sources, podcasts) it won't go backwards.
CBS either offers a disruptive innovation for news delivery or they have an audience that will die-off very soon.
With AI, any reasonable person will cease to believe anything that is stated from news anchors and shows like 60 minutes.
This is freedom. Slow as a glacier sometimes but freedom nevertheless. With the "Wizard's" curtain pulled open forever by this transparency tsunami called internet, maybe we really are at a turning point in history. Pray for Truth and Peace.
CBS has been lying to us since at least 1968 when Walter Cronkite reported that America had lost the Tet Offensive. And the lying has continued unabated. 60 Minutes has been a Leftist mouthpiece on the order of NPR with the likes of Leslie Stahl telling DJT that he was wrong about Obama spying on him and cutting Kamala’s word salad from her appearance. New management of CBS is in reality a breath of fresh air.
…or Leslie Stahl lying to Trump about Hunter’s laptop “it can’t be verified.” Because YOU WOULDN’T VERIFY IT YOU DOLT!!! The woman is a dishonest tool in the pay of the “progressive” left. And let’s not forget Dan “What’s the frequency Ken?” Blather - he of the anchor chair for how long? Trying to ambush George W on the eve of an election with fake, made up documents which were easily verified as forgeries. He - & his skank producer - paid for that one with their jobs thankfully.
See BS?
That’s the truth.
Amen! I bristle whenever I hear or read about Cronkite. That SOB led the charge for the NVA. A cancer on America was all the "news reporters" of the day were and still are. WC was the epitome of opinion reportage disguised as fact. No facts necessary.
The worst part was, Cronkite was worshipped as the grandfatherly sage who knew it all. I remember seeing him greeting the laity from his golf cart, kind of like the Pope in the Popemobile.
Grandfatherly my hind guarters! He was just an old goat that thought he knew better than the rest of us. He was a major factor in confusing young men at that time.
Uh ... I didn't mean it as a compliment.
Let's not forget Dan "fake but accurate" Rather. He and his producer created a false report about George W Bush's National Guard service. The fonts in the report were not in use during GWB's service years (typewriters used only courier). He and the producer were fired for the fake news report.
You could get typewriters with other fonts, what you couldn't get was text compression. With a typewriter, it was the same spacing whether an i or an M.
Thanks for posting this. Now I don't have to.
But I will add this. I have a distinct recollection of Cronkite a the Khe Sanh air base, a smoking C-130 in the background, telling us that General Giap decided who gets in and who gets out. The irony of that statement was apparently totally lost on him.
Thank you. I just read up on the point about him and the Tet Offensive. A critical example of how media sways/persuades public thought. (Of course, Orwell got there first.)
Ok, but they really need the breadth of fresh air
I went with Stripper Anchors, because I think that's the only step CBS could take to win back "viewers".
Me too. "Objectivity" is a bridge too far for CBS.
They will remain SeeBS until objectivity arrives.
Should've read just the first comment.
Objectivity should just be the standard. That's what their customers really want.
Which customers? Obviously the ones they still have don't.
Not so much demand there - eh?
I went with more DEI because that might take the network down forever.
Me too, although I doubt it will work. It's been too long since I watched network TV.
Strippers, oooh, yeah!
How about the View’s Caryn Johnson being CBS’ first stripper anchor?
Sick
LOL! Ya’ think?
CBS’ license would be immediately revoked.
No one but Ted Danson would be upset, though. After all, she/he were engaged @ one point.
no one knows who that is.
That’s why I used her given name.
I didn’t want Mr. Surber’s subscribers getting nauseous so early in the morning.
They can always google it.
I just did; and now a feel sick too. You set a nasty trap.
Quoting a movie star friend…’I like to watch’….
CBS, in same similar vein - as DC City Council Chair Mendelsohn instructions to MPD use of 'Taking Property w/o Right' aka 'Theft' to cook its crime statistics; Is 'looking' at Stripper Anchors and they categorize share of new audience as 'Voyeurs', t/b distinguished from the (abby)normal 'Viewers'.....
That was tried by the Naked News a few years back. Didn’t work. Boobs obscure objectivity because no one is listening.
I’m going to go “off topic”. I just read how Stephen Colbert “gave a blistering rebuke” to Kimmel’s firing as well as that unabomer looking old gasbag Letterman, crying about Freedom of Speech.
What these assholes just don’t get is yes, you have Freedom of Speech but you do not have Freedom from Consequences.
F.A.F.O. is working out very well.
May all of you have a wonderful weekend and may GOD Bless America.
Their caterwauling is music to my ears but after a session I want them to shut up period.
Kimmel, Colbert, Letterman et al will all be relegated to the dustbin of history, while Charlie Kirk’s words will be played over and over and over for generations. The truth always rings louder and longer.
SO TRUE MY FRIEND !!
Oh, “caterwauling” what a perfect adjective.
In contrast, I remember something about Jay Leno coming out for common sense some time in the crazy blur of last week.
Don't remember what he said exactly, but I believe he simply gave condolences to Charlie's family, or something like that.
You know - the basic thing everybody on the left _should_ be saying, but their demons in possession would never allow it.
It’s going to be a tough road to come back from for CBS. 60 Minutes used to be a must watch on Sunday Night. I haven’t watched it in 20 plus years. Antenna TV just makes me scream and cuss at the TV. What was it the Russian’s used to say about their news? They knew they are lying so they ignored them but American’s believe their media. None of the networks are worth my time when I can get the truth almost anywhere else.
The two major propaganda outlets in the old Soviet Union were "Pravda" and "Isvestia." "Pravda" translates roughly to "truth" or "justice" in Russian. "Isvestia" translates to "the news." Russians knew that there was no "Pravda/truth" in "Isvestia/the news." The sooner we understand and accept this, the more likely it will be that we actually understand what's going on in the world.
Ah yes, I remember now that the Dutch communist party's newspaper was called "De Waarheid" -- The Truth. It survived until 1991 thanks to its record as an illegal "resistance" paper during the WWII occupation by Hitler. Also to its credit, it had condemned the 1939 "Ribbentrop pact" between Stalin and Hitler. But of course soon after the war its following shrank.
60 Minutes was NEVER Must Watch Television, especially that racist gasbag Bernard Shaw who was responsible for an American patrol being slaughtered when he embedded himself with enemy Viet Cong/NVA troops.
I agree with you, Dave. I haven't watched MSM in years. My response to all this blather is I really don't care Margaret!
It’s probably more like 40 years since I’ve watched 60 minutes. I keep forgetting I’m the old geezer now. Time flies.
If you are no longer working you have become a retog also Dave.
Actually, still working but mostly my index finger and my gums.
I liked the one 'they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work....'
CBS 60 minutes has has always been a bunch of muck rakers.
Exactly. Don, bears the burden on our behalf sparing the destruction of countless television screens, and fits of nausea.
I was gonna write something intelligently snarky (as is my wont) but you girls and boys have already stolen my best lines😊.
It sincerely saddens and bothers me to think that Walter Conkrite, ‘The Face and Voice’ of unadulterated Straight News was so insidious in his delivery. Back in the day, if my Parents said he was legit, he was legit! Not only was it ‘who knew’ it was ‘who thought’… I hate the left and everything they stand for!
Good work y’all. Have a nice weekend
I would have voted for the strippers but then realized someone would generate a story about Trump having had sex with one or more of them 40 years ago before the stripper was born. That wouldn’t stop the slime stream media of running non stop with the allegation and somehow it would be connected to Jeffrey Epstein as well.
So I picked objectivity just to keep it simple.
My wife likes the ABC nightly “news” and hates it when I point out the falsehoods in many of the stories. The host-Muir-reminds me of the too slick for his own good neighbor I lived next to for many years. He wound up in prison for embezzlement.
“ Weiss' launch of The Free Press in 2021 was nearly pitch-perfect. It played into the backlash against the social progress movement of the previous year that presaged Trump's return to office.”
TRANSLATION:
Weiss’s launch of The Free Press in 2021 was nearly pitch-perfect. [It offered news and stories that reflected an entirely different perspective of current affairs, news and opinion in the ongoing cultural wars which were creating chaos with their nonstop, lies and disinformation they uniformly pushed through all the their monopolized Leftist propagandized media organs, thus helping on the effort to awaken and galvanize the Right and usher Trump back into office.]
How dare they.
Heh 😏
The launch of The Free Press may have been picture perfect, but as it started to grow, she primarily hired former New York Times reporters and it just turned into NYT lite. More power to her on the timing, but she reverted to type pretty quickly.
Yes she is still very much a liberal but TFP has a pretty decent balance of content offering for either side of the spectrum.
It’s more how it should be, and a far cry from what’s currently on offer out there.
👍, Suzie. Reposting for my readers.
Hmmm…David Ellison is talking real money to Bari Weiss; the valuation of her FreePress is somewhere north of $100M. Maybe after Trump causes a fire sale at the Old Grey Lady, she can pick it up for a song and start a real journal in its place. Women are great at remodeling! And revenge….
Excellent idea. Poetic justice for Bari to return to 'the paper of record' as it's Saviour.
Good job! 🎯 !
Survey answer - Objectivity. Easy choice. All the 'old' newscasters mentioned did one thing - they told you what happened. You were expected as a rational person, with some moral upbringing, to be able to hear the story and interpret it for yourselves, i.e, wow, that was a 'good' thing, or wow, that was a 'bad' thing. Then somwhere along the line, we started hearing Presidential State of the Union speeches on TV, followed by talking heads who told us what the President had said. Say what? I didn't need an interpreter, and if you did, you shouldn't have been voting.
I will always remember in the movie, "The Devil's Advocate", Al Pacino, as the Devil, saying to Keanu Reeves, "Never let 'em see you coming." There is the war with bombs and guns, and the war of attrition - wear them down with little cuts, small disruptions, petty arguments - we have been fighting the 'attrition war' for a long time now. I think Charlie Kirk's murder has a lot more people than me understanding that the pendulum has gone as far left as possible, and as it swings back to the right, swiftly, many people will come to know the real power in this country, and it isn't the liberals. It's the conservative, educated, morally based, bulk of Americans today. It's all the people who are NOT rioting, NOT blowing things up, NOT wearing vaginas on their head and NOT screaming like the idiots who do. It is every true American, who wants to build our country up, not tear it down. It is us.
Good morning Mr. Surber, you certainly laid out the numbers that perhaps an Econ 101 dropout would understand
MSM "news" is nothing more than leftist sleaze. I no longer watch it.
I am beginning to think the highlight of Don's posts are the subscriber pitches:
"I love little baby ducks, old pick-up trucks, little country streams, sleep without dreams, and I love Lou Ann too. Please subscribe."
Have not watched any A.M. or P.M. from the msm in years , ever since Dan Blather ran the hit on .G.W.B. and when proved a lie stood behind the story. It certainly would be novel and edgy to have news without bias imho. Nice explanation of the trade publishing the numbers so thank you for the brain labor capped with a mail-in poll. As a retog TGIF anyway.
Ah. Little Green Footballs and "kerning."
I followed that heavily online because I was working on something that had just recently taught me what kerning was.
Rather never got the comeuppance he deserved.
"Kerning" is the new word I've learned today, thanks to Surberland. Now I have to look up "retog".
Got this from a friend electrician who said we were retogs short for retired old geezers
Haha--funny!
https://substack.com/@ivanaunfiltered/note/c-157332849?r=h1q64&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Hey, thanks for that link. Ivana (or Julie?) is all new to me, and incontestably brilliant.
Very well done recap Karma indeed !!
Wow, Don lovely breakfast with comments. My brain is full now. May I be excused?
You remind me of that great Far Side cartoon...
I hope that’s a good thing. Don’s column and a lot of the commentators really get me thinking and I love it.
Almost went with the stripper anchors, it would at least make tv interesting again. Nice nod to Tom T. Hall and Watermelon Wine.
My thoughts exactly as watermelon season winds down . T.T. Hall is missed by this retog.
The continued failure of CBS has caused the free market to offer alternatives to their product/service of the classic news show. When markets accept new solutions and technology (digital sources, podcasts) it won't go backwards.
CBS either offers a disruptive innovation for news delivery or they have an audience that will die-off very soon.
With AI, any reasonable person will cease to believe anything that is stated from news anchors and shows like 60 minutes.
This is freedom. Slow as a glacier sometimes but freedom nevertheless. With the "Wizard's" curtain pulled open forever by this transparency tsunami called internet, maybe we really are at a turning point in history. Pray for Truth and Peace.